Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
Hard to define, just as quality itself is beyond definition. One who provides heat, light, and laughter is a good place to start.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
just curious LMS, if a man sails towards the horizon, will he fall off the edge of the earth?Last Man Standing said:A woman that you would consider for marriage cannot be "quality" unless she is a virgin - to be quality she must first meet this criteria!! Hors that are being banged by tom, dyck, and harry, disqualifies herself from the "quality" category!!
Okay...so...let's say that woman is slutty or had a LOT of baggage or a history of bad decisions...mzilla2 said:Ok Wylde,
If the target species is lets say late 20's - early 30's, college or university educated women what would you say is a good volunteer opportunity? LOL
I do what I do now cuz it gives me some levity (these kids have to tough out a lot, I got it cake easy comparatively), but I'm always up for something new.
On the bucks side of the debate, define quality all ya want, but a substantial part of that to women and men alike today IS financial security and success, call it the modern day caveman equivalent of draggin back a kill on a regular basis. Broke ain't attractive, either to guys or gals, IMO.![]()
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
My friend...I can tell you that woman might not care about getting involved with a man that is rich or whatever. But they do care about money to the point that they rather be with a man that at least make as much as them. In essence, they don't want to feel like they have to SUPPORT that man in the event she decides to have a child and take a few months from work.Wyldfire said:A couple of points...
First...money is irrelevant to most women now (unless she is a gold digger). Women are fully capable of supporting themselves today, so they don't really care about it anymore. They USED to back when women were more dependent on men to support them, but now, if anything, it's viewed merely as a bonus if the guy has a bit of money.
Let's define older...older is a woman that is over 35 years old and 5+ years older than the man. That's older.Second...older women don't care if older men chase younger women. I'm all for it...because as an older woman I don't want older men...I prefer the younger ones. I know a lot of older women who also prefer younger men, so most of them probably don't care.
I personally cannot see that a woman as gold digging for just considering the financial stability of a man. Heck, from my perspective, financial stability of a woman is EXTREMELY important as I would not want a woman (for marriage) with lot of debts.STR8UP said:I did say "All things being equal". but even then it depends upon the woman.
And I won't automatically call a woman a gold digger for leaning in that direction.
You are correct.edger said:And a man must judge whether a WOMAN is stable, secure, and a worthwhile catch. BOTH parties have to contribute EVENLY to financial expenses.
mzilla2 said:Just curious what other "mature men" are looking for in a gal... As I see the term "quality" bandied about, seems rather ambiguous, and I'm sure there are varying opinions... As much as you can define it, realizing it is a very subjective topic.
I'll start with what (I think) I'm looking for, some not as subjective:
- 27-34 yo
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
This is intreresting ,since Wyld has stated that she personally wants a man who's is emotionally stable, confident, and financially stable, not Rich.Most men in here are not looking for the Wyldfire of this World.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
RedPill said:Qualities of importance, in order of importance:
1. Hot
2. Happy & healthy
3. Not attached to the matrix
That's it. Everything else is secondary.
For my taste, hot means smokin' tight body, clean & classy beauty/style, & very feminine looking.
Happy & healthy means she's resolved the inner conflicts of her life (baggage), has the self-improvement bug, and is a mature adult woman (see F d'A's post above) who's feminine and in touch with her sexuality.
Not attached to the matrix means she can think for herself. Not an organized religion-involved, mtv-watching, man-eating, breeding-class media sheep. I know that sounds a bit arrogant but that's what does it for me.
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Of course this is an idealization, but any chick that I would even consider monogamy material has to be within range of this standard.
Aaaah. Hmmm. Yeah! They are. Was just having a similar conversation with an old female friend who is 34, divorced, 2 kids, was kinda hot about a year ago, but she's gaining weight and is loosing her shape.STR8UP said:And why again would you want 30+ women when you yourself are only 30? Doesn't float my boat, but to each his own. More younger women for me
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Man, are older women THAT threatened by younger chicks?
This deserved emphasis.Latinoman said:I personally cannot see that a woman as gold digging for just considering the financial stability of a man. Heck, from my perspective, financial stability of a woman is EXTREMELY important as I would not want a woman (for marriage) with lot of debts...
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.