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Master Don Juan
Hard to define, just as quality itself is beyond definition. One who provides heat, light, and laughter is a good place to start.
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
just curious LMS, if a man sails towards the horizon, will he fall off the edge of the earth?Last Man Standing said:A woman that you would consider for marriage cannot be "quality" unless she is a virgin - to be quality she must first meet this criteria!! Hors that are being banged by tom, dyck, and harry, disqualifies herself from the "quality" category!!
Okay...so...let's say that woman is slutty or had a LOT of baggage or a history of bad decisions...mzilla2 said:Ok Wylde,
If the target species is lets say late 20's - early 30's, college or university educated women what would you say is a good volunteer opportunity? LOL
I do what I do now cuz it gives me some levity (these kids have to tough out a lot, I got it cake easy comparatively), but I'm always up for something new.
On the bucks side of the debate, define quality all ya want, but a substantial part of that to women and men alike today IS financial security and success, call it the modern day caveman equivalent of draggin back a kill on a regular basis. Broke ain't attractive, either to guys or gals, IMO.![]()
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
My friend...I can tell you that woman might not care about getting involved with a man that is rich or whatever. But they do care about money to the point that they rather be with a man that at least make as much as them. In essence, they don't want to feel like they have to SUPPORT that man in the event she decides to have a child and take a few months from work.Wyldfire said:A couple of points...
First...money is irrelevant to most women now (unless she is a gold digger). Women are fully capable of supporting themselves today, so they don't really care about it anymore. They USED to back when women were more dependent on men to support them, but now, if anything, it's viewed merely as a bonus if the guy has a bit of money.
Let's define older...older is a woman that is over 35 years old and 5+ years older than the man. That's older.Second...older women don't care if older men chase younger women. I'm all for it...because as an older woman I don't want older men...I prefer the younger ones. I know a lot of older women who also prefer younger men, so most of them probably don't care.
I personally cannot see that a woman as gold digging for just considering the financial stability of a man. Heck, from my perspective, financial stability of a woman is EXTREMELY important as I would not want a woman (for marriage) with lot of debts.STR8UP said:I did say "All things being equal". but even then it depends upon the woman.
And I won't automatically call a woman a gold digger for leaning in that direction.
You are correct.edger said:And a man must judge whether a WOMAN is stable, secure, and a worthwhile catch. BOTH parties have to contribute EVENLY to financial expenses.
mzilla2 said:Just curious what other "mature men" are looking for in a gal... As I see the term "quality" bandied about, seems rather ambiguous, and I'm sure there are varying opinions... As much as you can define it, realizing it is a very subjective topic.
I'll start with what (I think) I'm looking for, some not as subjective:
- 27-34 yo
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
This is intreresting ,since Wyld has stated that she personally wants a man who's is emotionally stable, confident, and financially stable, not Rich.Most men in here are not looking for the Wyldfire of this World.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
RedPill said:Qualities of importance, in order of importance:
1. Hot
2. Happy & healthy
3. Not attached to the matrix
That's it. Everything else is secondary.
For my taste, hot means smokin' tight body, clean & classy beauty/style, & very feminine looking.
Happy & healthy means she's resolved the inner conflicts of her life (baggage), has the self-improvement bug, and is a mature adult woman (see F d'A's post above) who's feminine and in touch with her sexuality.
Not attached to the matrix means she can think for herself. Not an organized religion-involved, mtv-watching, man-eating, breeding-class media sheep. I know that sounds a bit arrogant but that's what does it for me.
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Of course this is an idealization, but any chick that I would even consider monogamy material has to be within range of this standard.
Aaaah. Hmmm. Yeah! They are. Was just having a similar conversation with an old female friend who is 34, divorced, 2 kids, was kinda hot about a year ago, but she's gaining weight and is loosing her shape.STR8UP said:And why again would you want 30+ women when you yourself are only 30? Doesn't float my boat, but to each his own. More younger women for me
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Man, are older women THAT threatened by younger chicks?
This deserved emphasis.Latinoman said:I personally cannot see that a woman as gold digging for just considering the financial stability of a man. Heck, from my perspective, financial stability of a woman is EXTREMELY important as I would not want a woman (for marriage) with lot of debts...
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.