The definition of a "quality woman"? [Merged Thread]

[Bonhomme]

Hard to define, just as quality itself is beyond definition. One who provides heat, light, and laughter is a good place to start.

 

[englishman]

Quality words mate, I particularly like #respect, in the past and probably still I've done the lengthy 'explaining' bit, in the hope she'd just 'understand' when in fact they already did, and just wondered how long it would take me to catch on.

 

[Bonhomme]

From what I've seen, there are very few women who would date a man whose status is lower than theirs in any way (except perhaps intelligence)... unless the man compensates by having at least one key quality (looks, machismo, humor, some sort of talent, etc.) in spades.

 

[Crank_It_Up]

A woman that you would consider for marriage cannot be "quality" unless she is a virgin - to be quality she must first meet this criteria!! Hors that are being banged by tom, dyck, and harry, disqualifies herself from the "quality" category!!

just curious LMS, if a man sails towards the horizon, will he fall off the edge of the earth?

 

[Latinoman]

Ok Wylde,

If the target species is lets say late 20's - early 30's, college or university educated women what would you say is a good volunteer opportunity? LOL

I do what I do now cuz it gives me some levity (these kids have to tough out a lot, I got it cake easy comparatively), but I'm always up for something new.

On the bucks side of the debate, define quality all ya want, but a substantial part of that to women and men alike today IS financial security and success, call it the modern day caveman equivalent of draggin back a kill on a regular basis. Broke ain't attractive, either to guys or gals, IMO.

Okay...so...let's say that woman is slutty or had a LOT of baggage or a history of bad decisions...

Don't you think that would potentially impact the man's pocket? Especially a sucessful man's pocket?

Conferences (professional), dance classes, Professional Organizations, etc. are places that attract a LOT of very good looking, professional, intelligent women in the 25-32 year range.

 

[Latinoman]

A couple of points...

First...money is irrelevant to most women now (unless she is a gold digger). Women are fully capable of supporting themselves today, so they don't really care about it anymore. They USED to back when women were more dependent on men to support them, but now, if anything, it's viewed merely as a bonus if the guy has a bit of money.

My friend...I can tell you that woman might not care about getting involved with a man that is rich or whatever. But they do care about money to the point that they rather be with a man that at least make as much as them. In essence, they don't want to feel like they have to SUPPORT that man in the event she decides to have a child and take a few months from work.

Second...older women don't care if older men chase younger women. I'm all for it...because as an older woman I don't want older men...I prefer the younger ones. I know a lot of older women who also prefer younger men, so most of them probably don't care.

Let's define older...older is a woman that is over 35 years old and 5+ years older than the man. That's older.

Yes, they care.

The "I prefer younger man" is literally one of those things women say when they are by-passed. In essense...most of those younger men that are dating older women (as defined by me) are doing it for a number of reasons:

1- Lack the ability to reach a young-prime-succesful-very attractive woman. Why? Because those women have CHOICES and they typically choose a man that has his stuff together.

2- Went through a life changing event and want to take a break. For instance, my case. I divorced. I have two kids and I wanted to take a break by spending more time with my kids and giving up on the night scene. I still phucked younger women...but I'm involved with an older one now because it is easier to deal with my kids situation. They should be alright soon...so...

3- Ignorance. They believe on the woman in her 40s are in their prime. Which is the biggest lie I have ever read or heard.

4- Simply put...they are AFC. Most men are. I would say over 90%. That's why we have a lot of bi-sexualism among younger women in today's society. Not enough "men" to keep them busy at their age group.

You live in Maine in some country back road as you admitted in the past and I understand that it is very hard to see some issues. But people that are in the D.C., Chicago, NY, LA, and some other metropolitan cities OR cities with Universities near by understand and know better.

Fact is...a man with CHOICES will go younger and hotter.

 

[Latinoman]

I did say "All things being equal". but even then it depends upon the woman.

And I won't automatically call a woman a gold digger for leaning in that direction.

I personally cannot see that a woman as gold digging for just considering the financial stability of a man. Heck, from my perspective, financial stability of a woman is EXTREMELY important as I would not want a woman (for marriage) with lot of debts.

Many women, especially those that work and tend to be independent...want to be able that if they marry and have children to be able to take several weeks off and they want a man that can financially support the family.

A gold digger is a woman that seeks men with money for the sole purpose to be taken care off and to do NO work and have the man pay for ALL her crap and travel and gifts and dine.

 

[Latinoman]

And a man must judge whether a WOMAN is stable, secure, and a worthwhile catch. BOTH parties have to contribute EVENLY to financial expenses.

You are correct.

In addition...a man must make sure that she has the quality to be the mother of his children.

 

[Latinoman]

Just curious what other "mature men" are looking for in a gal... As I see the term "quality" bandied about, seems rather ambiguous, and I'm sure there are varying opinions... As much as you can define it, realizing it is a very subjective topic.

I'll start with what (I think) I'm looking for, some not as subjective:

• 27-34 yo

You cannot put an age to "quality". Age has no issue in quality. My grandmother was a quality woman and she was in her 70s.

If I was in my 50s, I would certainly date SERIOUSLY women in their 40s.


Now...you can put a # to PRIME and to the likelihood of BAGGAGE.

 

[joekerr31]

a quality woman is a woman who is who she presents herself to be.
she is honest and authentic - not just with others but with herself.

as a result she is constantly growing and evolving in a healthy manner.

as a result you can trust and respect her - and that trust and respect grows mutually as time goes on.

that is a quality woman.

 

[joekerr31]

a quality woman is a woman who is who she presents herself to be.
she is honest and authentic - not just with others but with herself.

as a result she is constantly growing and evolving in a healthy manner.

as a result you can trust and respect her - and that trust and respect grows mutually as time goes on.

that is a quality woman.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Above all else, a woman needs to have integrity, is giving and is flexible for me to consider her possibly being a "quality woman."

 

[RedPill]

Qualities of importance, in order of importance:

1. Hot
2. Happy & healthy
3. Not attached to the matrix


That's it. Everything else is secondary.

For my taste, hot means smokin' tight body, clean & classy beauty/style, & very feminine looking.

Happy & healthy means she's resolved the inner conflicts of her life (baggage), has the self-improvement bug, and is a mature adult woman (see F d'A's post above) who's feminine and in touch with her sexuality.

Not attached to the matrix means she can think for herself. Not an organized religion-involved, mtv-watching, man-eating, breeding-class media sheep. I know that sounds a bit arrogant but that's what does it for me.

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Of course this is an idealization, but any chick that I would even consider monogamy material has to be within range of this standard.

 

[Interceptor]

Most men in here are not looking for the Wyldfire of this World.

This is intreresting ,since Wyld has stated that she personally wants a man who's is emotionally stable, confident, and financially stable, not Rich.
She says she's willing to be with a man for Love and Romantic reasons, NOT as a finnancial crutch for her to lean on. Meaning, she's not looking for a Sugar Daddy to support her, since she is independent and stable.
She's looking for Love , romance, and affection. Aren't you?
I know I am.

You're saying that the majority of men in here ARE looking for self centered Money Grabbing Hos?

What Poll or Survey did you get that from?
I've never seen it.

 

[mzilla2]

Re: Latinoman and Wylde,

Everyone makes a few bad decisions in life, men and women alike... And from what I've read you've both got some commonality in that respect...

In fact, I'd argue a large portion of happiness in life is gonna depend on the ability to MITIGATE a bad decision or raw deal, learn from the outcomes and try not to repeat the same bad decisions again.

And that, to me, is what I try to get a read on regarding women - are they learning and growing, or just makin the same mistakes over and over? I try to a realist with respect to "histories"... You can't live in the past, you gotta try to get a read where folks are going and how they can handle the bumps coming up... or not.


Re: Edger

In my experience money may not be happiness, but it sure as heck is a catalyst... I know my hard work and relative success financially has paid dividends for me personal satisfaction. So, regardless of whether you believe financial security is a "DJ trait" and is attractive to women, I would say its a wise thing to seek out for yourself.

LOL... Picturing it now... "Sure hon, I'll be there at 8:15... Or 8:45... depending on the bus schedules" That'll fly in the long run! IMO, not sayin' you gotta roll up in a Aston Martin, but reasonable wheels will open doors in terms of freedom and opportunity.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Qualities of importance, in order of importance:

1. Hot
2. Happy & healthy
3. Not attached to the matrix


That's it. Everything else is secondary.

For my taste, hot means smokin' tight body, clean & classy beauty/style, & very feminine looking.

Happy & healthy means she's resolved the inner conflicts of her life (baggage), has the self-improvement bug, and is a mature adult woman (see F d'A's post above) who's feminine and in touch with her sexuality.

Not attached to the matrix means she can think for herself. Not an organized religion-involved, mtv-watching, man-eating, breeding-class media sheep. I know that sounds a bit arrogant but that's what does it for me.

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Of course this is an idealization, but any chick that I would even consider monogamy material has to be within range of this standard.

This is awesome. I totally agree. Can't stand women who are followers and see/judge you through their lens on how you should live and how you are in comparison to her.

 

[Mr.Positive]

Age is irrelevant, unless you want to have children. There are women in their late 30's, and 40's, that are way hotter than a lot of women are in their 20's...and more emotionally stable too. Look at each woman as an individual when it comes to age. A healthy lifestyle and a positive outlook on life can take years off of a person!

I'll second that integrity is the most important quality for a woman..and, sadly, is very hard to find.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

And why again would you want 30+ women when you yourself are only 30? Doesn't float my boat, but to each his own. More younger women for me
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Man, are older women THAT threatened by younger chicks?

Aaaah. Hmmm. Yeah! They are. Was just having a similar conversation with an old female friend who is 34, divorced, 2 kids, was kinda hot about a year ago, but she's gaining weight and is loosing her shape.

I was telling her about and showing her pix of the young 21 year old, big breasted girly I was involved with.

"She's 12 years younger than you!"

"Off course she is. What, did you expect me to be with a 30 year old?" Hahaha. Wished I could have videotaped the look in her face.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I personally cannot see that a woman as gold digging for just considering the financial stability of a man. Heck, from my perspective, financial stability of a woman is EXTREMELY important as I would not want a woman (for marriage) with lot of debts...

This deserved emphasis. Too often guys believe it's their job to support the family fiscally; it's as if they define their masculinity by their ability to pay the bills. Companies coming out of bankruptcy are or better value than those going into bankruptcy. The same should be considered when choosing a mate. Financial solvency is important.

 

[mzilla2]

The age criteria, is for me, a rough guideline... I won't dismiss folks outside that range, just in my experience thats the age where women seem to start developing traits or have lived and learned enough to be movin' in the same direction as me.

Sure there are exceptions to every rule, older chicks who act like 19 y/o's, and 19 y/o's who have a very mature perspective on things, but it's like statistics, there is a "bell curve"... LOL

If I was 40, 50 or 21, I'm sure the age range would be different.