"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
The Cold/Distant/Mysterious vs. the Kino/Funny/Dancer DJ type
- Thread starter Ulex
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
TurtleShell
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unless your idea of mysterious is to go to a disco and move about like a real montey python nutcase and not really say a word to anyone, and come back each week doing different things. im sure youd pick up a wacky girl if you kept that up.
i think you can still kino and dance and be mysterious.
Tails
Senior Don Juan
whichever one you succeed the most at being. With the first be careful that you get enough interaction to prove yourself to her, with the second be careful that you are nto so crazy that you drive her away.Originally posted by Ulex
Which one is the ultimate DJ?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
So Many Ways
Master Don Juan
that's how i'd describe myself, i'd say it works most of hte time w/the girls
altho...i've recall a girl fall for the cold/distant/mysterious type.
one time i went out to a pub w/ attention wh0re w/her friends and EX (cold/distant/mysterious). i think i remember one time she said they went out for half a year...and im sure she's the ***** that broke it off and made him into her friend taht she uses.
i dont know why she broke it off, she's not a slut. but im thinking probabl cuz he got boring pretty quick for her, since he's not really a talker. he tries to be alpha by not talking, altho i never really liked him cuz of that attitude.