"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The Book That Launched The Seduction Community (Free copy at link)

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http://www.toosmarttofail.com/29reasons.pdf

My latest book is also free on the site, but you'll have to dig for it. HINT: it's similar in title to my username here.

It's called "29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy."

Note the copyright on the book: 1999 (April 1, 1999 I believe).

This was the first time the term PIVOT was used. Prior to that it had been called "Friendly Fox" in my previous work (Outfoxing The Foxes).

It also captures, in fictitious post format, the flavor of the original ASF newsgroup in 1998-1999, before the commercial forces took over the "community," moved it to censored web environments, and the audience never questioned the wisdom of buying stuff from websites that did not allow free speech. USENET was not good for these people, because they couldn't exclude/silence competitors, or silence dissent. I was doing fine in this environment.

Too fine, as it turns out. Guys who bought my $30.00 books were getting laidk, and suddenly didn't need high-priced bootcamps or seminars.

Fast forward to today, and Big Media took over, stole most of the content, and the status-addicted GAMMA males in the "community" gravitate to them like an HB to an abusive jerk. Very telling.

Telling the audience to open its mind again would be futile, since the forum censors will "protect them from themselves" and not even expose them to such "trolling." How sad.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You're the one who wrote that? It's an honor to meet you! I downloaded The Seduction Library years ago and had read your books way back then (this was around 2002 I believe). It was very helpful to me when I was still learning, and I always wondered who wrote these.

I still have them on CD-ROM and occasionally re-read them. The most memorable thing I read was in the Player's Glossary regarding Bible chicks:

What do you do when Jesus is her man? Not to worry! As the players of ASF will tell you, bible chicks are among the easiest to seduce, because they have repressed their sexual desires in the name of religion, and are often craving an outlet, but torn between their commitment to their religion and their desire to fulfill their desires.
 

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Started to read the first page that had text.

I'm just appalled at the sameness of it.

Even on just this site, you'll find basically the same paragraph slightly reworded in more than one place.

How much this community has "changed"...
 

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RAY!!!

Is that you!!!

And if it is, you know better than to claim you started this community : )

The community actually started a few years earlier on soc.singles. The mods there basically got tired of "us", and then A.S.F. was created, then formhandle's site, so on and so forth.

Seems like only yesterday I was 16 and jumping out of project windows after chasing ass. Now I'm 30 and I even own a boat! I'm on a boat nigga lol
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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