The 6 irrefutable laws of Status

[tksniper]

1- Status is ALWAYS relative. It doesnt matter where you are on the absolute scale. Its about the perception of your status relative to those in your group. A restaurant manager might be a 10 in his domain but a 5 in society. But nonetheless he gets to lord over his domain. (I had a restaurant owner friend who slept with over 100 of his female cuatomers).

2- Status is in the eye of the beholder. If you are seen as low status in society but high staus in your own narrative, then both things are true. You can be a loser in society but a winner in some niche environment. I.E. some heavily tatted jobless guy who promotes parties. Is this person a winner or a loser? Both realities are true at different times to different people.

3- Status attended to is the status that matters. Anyone can have accidental status. But its the guy whos found his niche and shows up everyday in that environment that ultimately finds dominance. Dominance is the ultimate form of status. Dominance is the pulitzer winning author, the socialite who somehow knows everyone, the "Chad" who lords over his social circle, etc.

4 - Status has inertia. It is easier to create status in a new environment than to change your status once its been crystallized. It is even easier for your subconsious mind to maintain your status in a given environment than to change it. This means that if you are low status in your environment, not only will it be an uphill battle to change other's perception of you, it will also be equally difficult to change your own internal dialogue about where you stand in the social hierarchy.


5- Status is learned. Our belief about status is developed early and every reference experience solidifies it. If you grew up as a "natural" with women, every experience will either solidify your experience or nullify it. Over time your micro-expressions will either express high status or low status. This is why game seldom works in the same social circle you grew up in. You may say confident things, but all of your subtle expressions are communicating low status so noone believes you've actually changed.

6 - Shame is the number 1 status killer. This is because it works. Look at cancel culture. If someone wants to destroy your status, they will try to shame you. And if you fall into their frame, you will lose all status. This is also how guys amog each other and how women cancel each other out (slvt shame.). Its all a status game. Dont react. Respond instead. Respond with "Ill be the one to take a higher road" and your status will remain untouched. React in any way and you show vulnerability.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Good post. It’s been said that status carries the most weight out of the LMSP parameters, and I read somewhere that as a man, if you have over 10K—or maybe it was 10M—followers, you’re clearly doing something right. I feel like it’s one of the least talked about and least understood pillars, and there are barely any real guides on how to be successful here.

It’s also fascinating to think about how to counteract some of these issues. For example, in point #4 where you said status is difficult to change once it’s crystallized in an environment, I think that’s where the concept of self-reinvention comes in. The world is always trying to assign you a role, and once you accept it, you’re locked into it. The only way out is to consciously reshape your image into something new, something that demands attention and breaks expectation. That’s how you reset your status and make people see you differently.

 

[tksniper]

Good post. It’s been said that status carries the most weight out of the LMSP parameters, and I read somewhere that as a man, if you have over 10K—or maybe it was 10M—followers, you’re clearly doing something right. I feel like it’s one of the least talked about and least understood pillars, and there are barely any real guides on how to be successful here.

It’s also fascinating to think about how to counteract some of these issues. For example, in point #4 where you said status is difficult to change once it’s crystallized in an environment, I think that’s where the concept of self-reinvention comes in. The world is always trying to assign you a role, and once you accept it, you’re locked into it. The only way out is to consciously reshape your image into something new, something that demands attention and breaks expectation. That’s how you reset your status and make people see you differently.

In my experience, the entire PUA and seduction community is stuck in #4. Not so much that their environment crystallized their status, but the very act of trying to learn game to break free from the crystallization reaffirms it.

 

[CornbreadFed]

People think of status on a macro level to where the whole world needs to know you when all you need is that micro level status to give you success with women. Just being recognizable at your gym is considered status.

 

[Solomon]

People think of status on a macro level to where the whole world needs to know you when all you need is that micro level status to give you success with women. Just being recognizable at your gym is considered status.

Bingo this is very true

I always bring up a buddy of mine 6'2, 320 pounds, heavyset in real life he is a bit overweight he used to be in great shape when he did ju-jitzu but he got married, then divorced and that caused all types of stress hence he put on 75 pounds. Guess what he works as a bouncer part time on weekends and has cracked some gorgeous girls. According to sosuave, my buddy should be a lame incel but he knows how to talk to women and being a bouncer at one of the top bars in the city makes him attractive even to girls out of his "league"

Status on a celebrity level is not needed it just depends on your niche, look at all these cornball streamers like Kai and Ishowspeed (no hate I love to see young brothers getting money, not a fan of the cooning though). You can be a nerd or dork in real life but be a Superstar at anime conventions, e-game world etc. It's all relative. Sure you might not get the club bimbos or IG thots many men in the redpill obess over but there are some really pretty girls that are also into anime, e-games, streaming etc. Heck, I'd rather date a e-chick than a IG bimbo cause at least with the e-chick we can watch anime and play video games. A club bimbo just wants to be out every weekend and take trips to Miami *yawn* boring

I remember I use to part of a social circle with millionaires and such, they all made more money than me but I got let in due to the connections I had. It's all about your value You don't need to be famous

 

[CornbreadFed]

Bingo this is very true

I always bring up a buddy of mine 6'2, 320 pounds, heavyset in real life he is a bit overweight he used to be in great shape when he did ju-jitzu but he got married, then divorced and that caused all types of stress hence he put on 75 pounds. Guess what he works as a bouncer part time on weekends and has cracked some gorgeous girls. According to sosuave, my buddy should be a lame incel but he knows how to talk to women and being a bouncer at one of the top bars in the city makes him attractive even to girls out of his "league"

Status on a celebrity level is not needed it just depends on your niche, look at all these cornball streamers like Kai and Ishowspeed (no hate I love to see young brothers getting money, not a fan of the cooning though). You can be a nerd or dork in real life but be a Superstar at anime conventions, e-game world etc. It's all relative. Sure you might not get the club bimbos or IG thots many men in the redpill obess over but there are some really pretty girls that are also into anime, e-games, streaming etc. Heck, I'd rather date a e-chick than a IG bimbo cause at least with the e-chick we can watch anime and play video games. A club bimbo just wants to be out every weekend and take trips to Miami *yawn* boring

I remember I use to part of a social circle with millionaires and such, they all made more money than me but I got let in due to the connections I had. It's all about your value You don't need to be famous

I have a friend that is short, not good looking, overweight, and works in a factory. He was able to pull women well above his league because he had that Alpha Scottish Clan leader personality that made him the most projecting man in the room and people loved him. Unfortunately, he did peak, and alcoholism/stagnation got the best of him for sure.

The reason I harp on the red & black pill so much is because acquiring micro status means being well received by regular people, not some sub-section of the internet. Y'all want to be the alpha male, but the alpha male leads the betas not the omegas. It's cool to have some key red pill principles in your toolbox, but I have never heard of a high-status guy of the masses openly be red/black pill. Even Andrew Tate knew not to assign himself to the red pill despite being claimed and I have never heard of a regular person speaking of him positively. His biggest mistake was probably not denouncing the red pill IMHO. When you openly follow these movements, you are just labeling yourself with the scarlet letter and embargoing yourself from obtaining any relevant status.

 

[SW15]

1- Status is ALWAYS relative.

2- Status is in the eye of the beholder.

It’s been said that status carries the most weight out of the LMSP parameters

Status is less important than looks or money. Looks is #1 factor.

One of my male friends used status very well in his seduction game before he got married and more deeply embraced a blue pill ideology.

One of my male friends is a 6'4" White male who was an competitive collegiate athlete in a country club sport. He had zero chance of going pro in that sport. He did use his former collegiate athlete status to attract women. This is part of how he put up a triple digit notch count prior to marriage.

I think he used relative status and status in the eye of the beholder to his advantage.

He was a strong marketer.

A tall White male with collegiate athlete status, a degree, and a white collar job will appeal to a subset of women. He knew he was most appealing to bougie White women with bachelor's degrees + and white collar jobs. He did all his approaching in bars where bougie White women tended to be. He was able to get mostly one time, same night sex from this approaching but he did get some extended interactions from this.

I think looks mattered more than status for this but his status as a former collegiate athlete was helpful.

In bar approaching, his verbal game was inferior to mine at the time yet his results were superior mainly based on height and that status play.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Status is less important than looks or money. Looks is #1 factor.

I disagree and I am about to make a topic about this tbh.

 

[Hal9000]

Thing about status is that nobody knows who 99% of other people are, much less their status. Sure at work theres a hierarchy everyone is aware of, but unless you're somehow famous, once you leave work your status is whatever you project it to be. Its more closely related to money, which can also be faked/manipulated, than looks which you're more or less stuck with.

I'd always recommend guys spend more time working on their appearance and getting their finances in order than worrying about something as hard to quantify as status. If youre clearly in a situation where you have status and can take advantage then great, but thats not really going to apply to the vast majority of guys.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Guys, read #1 again. It's always relative. Status is not necessarily what you do for a living. That's just a factor and so are looks.

This is a situational concept. You can be CEO of Big D!ck Incorporated, walk into a room and someone can take you down a notch. It is not static and not guaranteed. Which is why I recommend internalizing your value to the point that it is unshakable, rather than seeking external validation.

 

[Solomon]

Status is less important than looks or money. Looks is #1 factor.

One of my male friends used status very well in his seduction game before he got married and more deeply embraced a blue pill ideology.

One of my male friends is a 6'4" White male who was an competitive collegiate athlete in a country club sport. He had zero chance of going pro in that sport. He did use his former collegiate athlete status to attract women. This is part of how he put up a triple digit notch count prior to marriage.

I think he used relative status and status in the eye of the beholder to his advantage.

He was a strong marketer.

A tall White male with collegiate athlete status, a degree, and a white collar job will appeal to a subset of women. He knew he was most appealing to bougie White women with bachelor's degrees + and white collar jobs. He did all his approaching in bars where bougie White women tended to be. He was able to get mostly one time, same night sex from this approaching but he did get some extended interactions from this.

I think looks mattered more than status for this but his status as a former collegiate athlete was helpful.

In bar approaching, his verbal game was inferior to mine at the time yet his results were superior mainly based on height and that status play.

Status is more important than money,

How does money help you if you just want to seduce a woman in bed that isn't a golddigger?

I'll wait for your response

 

[BadBoy89]

I have a friend that is short, not good looking, overweight, and works in a factory. He was able to pull women well above his league because he had that Alpha Scottish Clan leader personality that made him the most projecting man in the room and people loved him.

Of course he was. According to you, short, ugly, overweight men are very Alpha and in demand by hot women.

The reason I harp on the red & black pill so much is because acquiring micro status means being well received by regular people, not some sub-section of the internet.

This an assumption. No proof of this.

Y'all want to be the alpha male, but the alpha male leads the betas not the omegas. It's cool to have some key red pill principles in your toolbox, but I have never heard of a high-status guy of the masses openly be red/black pill.

Another assumption. No proof of this.

Even Andrew Tate knew not to assign himself to the red pill despite being claimed and I have never heard of a regular person speaking of him positively. His biggest mistake was probably not denouncing the red pill IMHO. When you openly follow these movements, you are just labeling yourself with the scarlet letter and embargoing yourself from obtaining any relevant status.

Another assumption. No proof of this.

Lots of theory in your posts to make you feel better. Absolutely no reality.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Good point about status being relative. To use a hypothetical example, let's say you do really well in school, ace the job interviews and end up getting your dream job as an attorney or investment banker at some prestigious Wall Street firm. Compared to your childhood friends and the people you went to high school with, you are probably high status. However, compared to other people in the organization that you have just joined, and Wall Street in general, you are nothing but a low level grunt. There's a reason why they call it "The Army of Wall Street". And because you are now working your ass off trying to impress your superiors and climbing the corporate ladder, you are probably spending little time with the people you grew up with and a lot of time with other young, ambitious strivers like yourself, which means that you rarely get to feel like a "high status" individual in your new environment. You are just another small fish in a big pond. That explains why you see so many seemingly successful men with very average or even subpar-looking women. They are not plugged into an environment where their wealth and success translate into sufficiently high status.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Of course he was. According to you, short, ugly, overweight men are very Alpha and in demand by hot women.



This an assumption. No proof of this.



Another assumption. No proof of this.



Another assumption. No proof of this.

Lots of theory in your posts to make you feel better. Absolutely no reality.

Keep Coping

 

[plumber]

Good point about status being relative. To use a hypothetical example, let's say you do really well in school, ace the job interviews and end up getting your dream job as an attorney or investment banker at some prestigious Wall Street firm. Compared to your childhood friends and the people you went to high school with, you are probably high status. However, compared to other people in the organization that you have just joined, and Wall Street in general, you are nothing but a low level grunt. There's a reason why they call it "The Army of Wall Street". And because you are now working your ass off trying to impress your superiors and climbing the corporate ladder, you are probably spending little time with the people you grew up with and a lot of time with other young, ambitious strivers like yourself, which means that you rarely get to feel like a "high status" individual in your new environment. You are just another small fish in a big pond. That explains why you see so many seemingly successful men with very average or even subpar-looking women. They are not plugged into an environment where their wealth and success translate into sufficiently high status.

well said.

 

[Plinco]

1- Status is ALWAYS relative. It doesnt matter where you are on the absolute scale. Its about the perception of your status relative to those in your group. A restaurant manager might be a 10 in his domain but a 5 in society. But nonetheless he gets to lord over his domain. (I had a restaurant owner friend who slept with over 100 of his female cuatomers).

2- Status is in the eye of the beholder. If you are seen as low status in society but high staus in your own narrative, then both things are true. You can be a loser in society but a winner in some niche environment. I.E. some heavily tatted jobless guy who promotes parties. Is this person a winner or a loser? Both realities are true at different times to different people.

3- Status attended to is the status that matters. Anyone can have accidental status. But its the guy whos found his niche and shows up everyday in that environment that ultimately finds dominance. Dominance is the ultimate form of status. Dominance is the pulitzer winning author, the socialite who somehow knows everyone, the "Chad" who lords over his social circle, etc.

4 - Status has inertia. It is easier to create status in a new environment than to change your status once its been crystallized. It is even easier for your subconsious mind to maintain your status in a given environment than to change it. This means that if you are low status in your environment, not only will it be an uphill battle to change other's perception of you, it will also be equally difficult to change your own internal dialogue about where you stand in the social hierarchy.


5- Status is learned. Our belief about status is developed early and every reference experience solidifies it. If you grew up as a "natural" with women, every experience will either solidify your experience or nullify it. Over time your micro-expressions will either express high status or low status. This is why game seldom works in the same social circle you grew up in. You may say confident things, but all of your subtle expressions are communicating low status so noone believes you've actually changed.

6 - Shame is the number 1 status killer. This is because it works. Look at cancel culture. If someone wants to destroy your status, they will try to shame you. And if you fall into their frame, you will lose all status. This is also how guys amog each other and how women cancel each other out (slvt shame.). Its all a status game. Dont react. Respond instead. Respond with "Ill be the one to take a higher road" and your status will remain untouched. React in any way and you show vulnerability.

The word you're looking for is contextual

Status is contextual; everyone has a different definition of what status is

 

[Divorced w 3]

This is a phenomenal write up and may be the single most important unspoken part of a seduction. Excellent post

 

[jhonny9546]

It's about the perception of your status relative to those in your group.

Status is in the eye of the beholder.

JC Leyendecker said, "Impact Millions."
In fact, his art was recognized by everyone, even those outside their group.
In this case, a famous person impacts everyone on a different level than the restaurant manager in your town of 50,000.

Shame is the number 1 status killer.
If someone wants to destroy your status, they will try to shame you.
Its all a status game. React in any way and you show vulnerability

Some people, here I'm talking about men, who speak badly about other men behind their backs.
If you and I are friends with Carlo and Michele, then when you're not there, I'll badmouth you to them. If Michele is away and it's just the three of us, then I'll badmouth Michele.
People who do this act weak, but in others' eyes they're trying to discredit someone to “gain” status. They've realized that by doing this, they position themselves as the ones who “judge” others, and that's how they maintain their status.
In short: they discredit others by speaking rudely about them behind their backs, but then, they're still friends. Others, however, will tell you to speak only positive things when someone isn't there.
@tksniper say more about point 6

 

[Bingo-Player]

Whilst I agree it can be a key component in female attraction

The notion of status is deeply flawed .....because it's so theatrical & performative for both the people trying to achieve it and the people that are convinced to give it to them

The benefits of status are usually restricted to a very small pool of environments and situations .... yes dating / attraction can be two of them but there are in a lot of cases far more negatives than positives its very very easy to slap a bullseye on yourself with status.

Any celebrity will tell you that being constantly recognised is mostly a pain in the arse during day to day life

There are groups in my hometown who would class themselves as highly popular within that local area ....theres constant drama between these groups as they fight with each other to scramble up the social ladder yet you take them out of that local environment and they instantly become nobodies.

Status is a strange human psychological tenant

it takes someone to want it and someone to give it ...

 

[ValiantMale]

Great post brother.