"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Texting back and forth with Cute Latina secretary, how can I spicen this convo?

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If she's traveling to court, sounds like she's a legal secretary or paralegal, that's pretty high status relative to most latinas so you have to overcome that. Could be why she's so dry in the convo. Chick is around suited lawyers all day.

Plus you're 12 hours away.

Is this chick in Mexico or Texas?
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Lol, Im just being myself at this point, I intend to build this roommate, bunk mate type of online friendship with her until I get back to Texas. Then I’ll ask her out for fun. Do I have oneitis? Absolutely not, Im a highly spiritual dude and get my high elsewhere, I love God and I love nature and taking walks in the beach and park man lol.
Sounds like you are essentially wasting your time then talking with women.
 

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Lol, Im just being myself at this point, I intend to build this roommate, bunk mate type of online friendship with her until I get back to Texas. Then I’ll ask her out for fun. Do I have oneitis? Absolutely not, Im a highly spiritual dude and get my high elsewhere, I love God and I love nature and taking walks in the beach and park man lol.
Don’t say comrades man, that’s so corny lmao. Read the rules in the link below, especially number 5 in regards to texting.


V. Adhere to the golden ratio
Give your woman 2/3 of everything she gives you.

For every three calls or texts, give her two back. Three declarations of love earn two in return. Three gifts; two nights out.

Give her two displays of affection and stop until she has answered with three more. When she speaks, you reply with fewer words.

When she emotes, you emote less. The idea behind the golden ratio is twofold — it establishes your greater value by making her chase you, and it demonstrates that you have the self-restraint to avoid getting swept up in her personal dramas.

Refraining from reciprocating everything she does for you in equal measure instills in her the proper attitude of belief in your higher status. In her deepest loins it is what she truly wants.
 

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Hi Travel Memoirs,
This Bird is not going to sit on a Park Bench,playing with your Dog,enjoying an Ice Cream while discussing how many Angels dance on the head of a pin....She is after fatter Fish than you...But aren't you in the Philippines?
 

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Dude..on one hand you are desperately asking for answers ,on the other hand you claim to be this " zen type a guy who doesn't give a F". The truth is seeping through the text exchanges.

By the way, why you post her on your damn Facebook?? You try to get validation from other people by showing her off..WRONG.

You are scared to escalate. This typically happens to men who haven't had during desire in YEARS. Let me tell you; if a woman talks to me like this she is dismissed immediately. Her IL seems like 20% at best. And you accept it...because you forgot/ don't know what 100% looks like anymore.

And spare me that crap about becoming friends. You're biggest advantage is your in a 3rd world shytehole and women know you have more money than the average man. Yet you are too scared to do some. You said you don't mind stepping into the friendzone. That's..ludicrous..
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Ok in your screen shots I've counted six mentions of "work" or "job" (or "busy") from her.

She is conveying to you either 1) you are boring and she wants to establish that she's too busy to see you or 2) she is in fact busy and ain't got time for your mindless texts, IOW take action or get lost. There is nothing drier than "work" and "busy."

This reminds me of that cartoon with the energetic little pup bothering the complacent disinterested bulldog. You are not the bulldog.

Just ask her out, isolate, kino, kiss. Not that hard bro.
 

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Lol Im still here in South East Asia man, hopefully I’ll get back to the states mid October, thanks for the advise
You are in SE Asia and you're messaging one girl in Texas? If she knows this then it's clear why she conveys zero tingles. Bro go get an Asian girl.
 

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Hi Travel Memoirs,
This Bird is not going to sit on a Park Bench,playing with your Dog,enjoying an Ice Cream while discussing how many Angels dance on the head of a pin....She is after fatter Fish than you...But aren't you in the Philippines?
Yes for the most part Im just getting settled honestly. Been busy going to roadtrips with my buddies and family, Been busy being a Chef/Cook at the hotel making breakfast for the crew. My parents and I have plans on going back to the states Mid October, As you know, I’m a Dude of faith and follow certain traditional spiritual principles with the opposite sex. Im just trying to build up my rotation of women I can take out on dates and have a good time in Texas. But as far as relationships material goes, it’s definitely South East Asia or abroad.
 

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Lol, Im just being myself at this point...
Manosphere equivalent of the many aspiring actresses who entered The Biz while the spirit of MeToo was still powerful, gave in to their reflexive urge to say "No", the minute nude scenes were on the table. They were "being themselves"... Most women/people in general are at least mildly nervous about getting naked on screen. Sydney Sweeney was among the few familiar enough with Hollywood history to recognize that filming racy sequences is vital to a young actress's career, DIDN'T allow herself to be constrained by her own visceral apprehensions. Subsequently, Syd's rise has been relatively swift and meteoric, and this wasn't achieved by "being herself"



"Being ourselves" isn't particularly shrewd, UNLESS that "self" is enriching our lives in some tangible way
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Dude..on one hand you are desperately asking for answers ,on the other hand you claim to be this " zen type a guy who doesn't give a F". The truth is seeping through the text exchanges.

By the way, why you post her on your damn Facebook?? You try to get validation from other people by showing her off..WRONG.

You are scared to escalate. This typically happens to men who haven't had during desire in YEARS. Let me tell you; if a woman talks to me like this she is dismissed immediately. Her IL seems like 20% at best. And you accept it...because you forgot/ don't know what 100% looks like anymore.

And spare me that crap about becoming friends. You're biggest advantage is your in a 3rd world shytehole and women know you have more money than the average man. Yet you are too scared to do some. You said you don't mind stepping into the friendzone. That's..ludicrous..
Lol, it maybe a shyt hole to you, but for many, it’s a cultural paradise. What’s not to like? Good beaches, camaraderie amongst Men, Basketball games in the park, karaoke with the guys, Cute traditional women and living the simple life in the mountains etc.


Id like to build rapport with this girl and connect with her some more. Based on the stories I’ve seen of this chick, she’s an avid concert goer and connoisseur of going to certain interesting places. I want to honestly keep the vibe natural like it is now plus with a few advise that Im getting on this post as the icing on the cake. This chick seems like a fun girl and Im interested in meeting her female friends as well. Basically I just want to be my blissful esoteric intuned self while gettng a few pointers that would make me centered masculine wise and create harmonious flirtatious gender dynamic with these sort of things.
 

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Ok in your screen shots I've counted six mentions of "work" or "job" (or "busy") from her.

She is conveying to you either 1) you are boring and she wants to establish that she's too busy to see you or 2) she is in fact busy and ain't got time for your mindless texts, IOW take action or get lost. There is nothing drier than "work" and "busy."

This reminds me of that cartoon with the energetic little pup bothering the complacent disinterested bulldog. You are not the bulldog.

Just ask her out, isolate, kino, kiss. Not that hard bro.

Well what are your universal go to topics if you want to have an entertaining, enjoyable conversation? Men and Women. Personally, in real life it all boils down to your state of mind and demeanor and how you’re willing to give to the interactions. You can be talking about calculus in a passionate, laidback tone and it might work.
 

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Just had a chat with her tonight, the topic of sports, coffee runs and her job arised. What would you say and reply to spicen this conversation? Just wondering. I’d like to take her out on a few dates for fun, if I can pull that off, I’d be one content man.
Religion is usually a good topic to discuss on a first date. Perhaps you could talk to her about islam?
 

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Lol, it maybe a shyt hole to you, but for many, it’s a cultural paradise. What’s not to like? Good beaches, camaraderie amongst Men, Basketball games in the park, karaoke with the guys, Cute traditional women and living the simple life in the mountains etc.


Id like to build rapport with this girl and connect with her some more. Based on the stories I’ve seen of this chick, she’s an avid concert goer and connoisseur of going to certain interesting places. I want to honestly keep the vibe natural like it is now plus with a few advise that Im getting on this post as the icing on the cake. This chick seems like a fun girl and Im interested in meeting her female friends as well. Basically I just want to be my blissful esoteric intuned self while gettng a few pointers that would make me centered masculine wise and create harmonious flirtatious gender dynamic with these sort of things.
I salute you for making this a great learning experience for all of us. Yes 3rd world. Great for 3 weeks, not so great for living. I'm from the 3rd world so I know.

Having said that, you ought to KNOW by now that's NOT how the game works. If you want to bang women you should be able to play the game according to the rules. The rule is we as men lead. Why would you lead YOURSELF into the friendzone?

This is a stranger!!Who GAF I you say " hey wanna hang out "( aka duck my sick) and she like "no". You value her looks over everything thus you try to maintain a lackluster bond for zero reason other than gaining some respect from us ,your friends and Lord knows who. Meanwhile your self-esteem/respect takes yet another hit to the chin..
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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"Another one drops to pressure...
Another dance in the dark...
Another love undercover...
Outlines of the heart ..."
 

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Lol, Im just being myself at this point, I intend to build this roommate, bunk mate type of online friendship with her until I get back to Texas. Then I’ll ask her out for fun. Do I have oneitis? Absolutely not, Im a highly spiritual dude and get my high elsewhere, I love God and I love nature and taking walks in the beach and park man lol.
The goal is to move the convo forward, set a date up, be flirty, test for compliance, have fun!!!



pardon my spelling mistakes, this is inbetween me playing Mini Basketbal lmfaooooo
 
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@Travel memoir21
Based on the stories I’ve seen of this chick, she’s an avid concert goer and connoisseur of going to certain interesting places.

Expand on what kind of music she likes and what kind of interesting places she has been to. You haven't done that at all.

For Example:

Hey, tell me about the pic with the tribal people in the jungle. Looks very interesting.

Does this girl know you are located in southest Asia and are only going to Texas to visit?
 

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@Travel memoir21
Based on the stories I’ve seen of this chick, she’s an avid concert goer and connoisseur of going to certain interesting places.

Expand on what kind of music she likes and what kind of interesting places she has been to. You haven't done that at all.

For Example:

Hey, tell me about the pic with the tribal people in the jungle. Looks very interesting.

Does this girl know you are located in southest Asia and are only going to Texas to visit?
She's into early to mid 2000s Emo music scene. She loves the All American Rejects and likes to frequent resorts, probably loves to go to the beach and frequent exotic restaurants. Typical Liberal explorer mentality for her age, which I adore. Probably the type though that goes in all girls trip to The Caribbean's with her girlfriends, which would raise some red flags and as warning sign to any dude out there wanting to get involved with her. Lol, I'm in it for the experience basically, I just want to put a smile on her face and make her day and keep her company til she find the poor chap lol
 

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Hi Travel Memoir,
"as far as relationships material goes, it’s definitely South East Asia or abroad."I was amazed by the numbers of Good Christian Filipinas,many doing it very tough indeed.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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