You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
I'm hoping you atleast understand why people had an opposing view.Mr.Fantastic said:I decided to text her in the end, after an upswing of sense on this thread.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Jitterbug said:You got a girl who had zero investment in the date (wearing work clothes) & showed up for a free drink, while constantly thinking about studying for the exam. Other than a boring conversation, you got zip from her.
Congrats, it really worked.
Listen to Tazman, mate.
Okay, first of all, women ALWAYS have time to date SOMEONE. If the IL is high enough, they will find a way to MAKE time. I've actually gone out with full-time students/employees, and trust me, if they thought highly enough of me, they found a way to make time.Mr.Fantastic said:As it stands I don't think the girl has enough time to date anyone from what she was saying, she works full time and studys in the evenings, so whatever, im not worried. But I always think it is best to gain as much experience as possible, and this has brought a little bit of that to me.
I have learned that basically, in these situations, you should be waiting for the girl to text something to confirm (this will show high interest on her part) - if she does not text, then you can assume she has low interest, but a short text of your own will ensure the meeting, from where you can proceed (if you think its worth it) with the knowledge that she has lower interest.
ha, yeah thats good advice, im not sure most girls would be willing to come round on first meeting though? perhaps meet them in a pub/bar near my place, then suggest moving on to watch a movie there?Rescue Mission said:Everyone on this whole entire thread is missing this guy's biggest mistake!!
Because all of you have missed it, I am assuming that you all make this same mistake more often than you should, thus you might not even think it is a mistake in the first place!!
what is the mistake? one word - ISOLATION
listen, dude, I know you want to learn this the hard way, and have your wallet take a hit of thousands of $$'s before it finally clicks in your head, so I am going to do you a favor and tell you exactly how you get sex from women (and how YOU could have gotten sex from YOUR chick in this thread):
You had a nice 1st date makeout session........so why in the hell are you not hanging out with this woman somewhere isolated the next time you see her?
WHY are you with her in a local place having a goddamn conversation as your date????
Your "second date" should have been as simple as this:
1) your place/her place/hotel room
2) alcohol/movies/music/games
3) start making out again like you did on the 1st date, except this time.........get ready for this.............ready???............YOU ARE ALL ALONE WITH HER, WHICH MEANS THE NATURAL PROGRESS FROM MAKING OUT TO EFFING THE HELL OUT OF HER ACTUALLY HAS A CHANCE TO HAPPEN!!!
When you go out somewhere public, especially with a girl who you know is attracted to you (since you made out the 1st date), then you are automatically lowering your shot at getting some azz just by the fact that you CHOSE to be in public
if the attraction is there, she should have ZERO problem being with you somewhere in isolation, and still having a few drinks with you (much cheaper ones than at some bar by the way!!).......cuddling, kissing, making out, removing clothes, having sex
I have learned this through years of experience - every single girl that was into me that I did the above with, I ended up having sex with, whether it was 1st date, 2nd date, 3rd date, or whatever
also, stop thinking of your time spent with chicks as DATES - that is soooo 50's and we are not in that world anymore - these days, you hang out with women, you have fun with women, and you fvck women - let some other chump take them out on "dates" - YOU are her sex toy
understood??
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
boobsDante420 said:If you must text ask her about something she's going to wear let her know you enjoy seeing _______ on a first date