You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I'm hoping you atleast understand why people had an opposing view.Mr.Fantastic said:I decided to text her in the end, after an upswing of sense on this thread.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Jitterbug said:You got a girl who had zero investment in the date (wearing work clothes) & showed up for a free drink, while constantly thinking about studying for the exam. Other than a boring conversation, you got zip from her.
Congrats, it really worked.
Listen to Tazman, mate.
Okay, first of all, women ALWAYS have time to date SOMEONE. If the IL is high enough, they will find a way to MAKE time. I've actually gone out with full-time students/employees, and trust me, if they thought highly enough of me, they found a way to make time.Mr.Fantastic said:As it stands I don't think the girl has enough time to date anyone from what she was saying, she works full time and studys in the evenings, so whatever, im not worried. But I always think it is best to gain as much experience as possible, and this has brought a little bit of that to me.
I have learned that basically, in these situations, you should be waiting for the girl to text something to confirm (this will show high interest on her part) - if she does not text, then you can assume she has low interest, but a short text of your own will ensure the meeting, from where you can proceed (if you think its worth it) with the knowledge that she has lower interest.
ha, yeah thats good advice, im not sure most girls would be willing to come round on first meeting though? perhaps meet them in a pub/bar near my place, then suggest moving on to watch a movie there?Rescue Mission said:Everyone on this whole entire thread is missing this guy's biggest mistake!!
Because all of you have missed it, I am assuming that you all make this same mistake more often than you should, thus you might not even think it is a mistake in the first place!!
what is the mistake? one word - ISOLATION
listen, dude, I know you want to learn this the hard way, and have your wallet take a hit of thousands of $$'s before it finally clicks in your head, so I am going to do you a favor and tell you exactly how you get sex from women (and how YOU could have gotten sex from YOUR chick in this thread):
You had a nice 1st date makeout session........so why in the hell are you not hanging out with this woman somewhere isolated the next time you see her?
WHY are you with her in a local place having a goddamn conversation as your date????
Your "second date" should have been as simple as this:
1) your place/her place/hotel room
2) alcohol/movies/music/games
3) start making out again like you did on the 1st date, except this time.........get ready for this.............ready???............YOU ARE ALL ALONE WITH HER, WHICH MEANS THE NATURAL PROGRESS FROM MAKING OUT TO EFFING THE HELL OUT OF HER ACTUALLY HAS A CHANCE TO HAPPEN!!!
When you go out somewhere public, especially with a girl who you know is attracted to you (since you made out the 1st date), then you are automatically lowering your shot at getting some azz just by the fact that you CHOSE to be in public
if the attraction is there, she should have ZERO problem being with you somewhere in isolation, and still having a few drinks with you (much cheaper ones than at some bar by the way!!).......cuddling, kissing, making out, removing clothes, having sex
I have learned this through years of experience - every single girl that was into me that I did the above with, I ended up having sex with, whether it was 1st date, 2nd date, 3rd date, or whatever
also, stop thinking of your time spent with chicks as DATES - that is soooo 50's and we are not in that world anymore - these days, you hang out with women, you have fun with women, and you fvck women - let some other chump take them out on "dates" - YOU are her sex toy
understood??
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
boobsDante420 said:If you must text ask her about something she's going to wear let her know you enjoy seeing _______ on a first date