"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hey, I texted this girl this morning.. we've been on a few dates and they've been great... haven't made a move yet.

She's a tutor and a biochem major. She has alot of kids of which she tutors for cash and she does it often during the week.

I texted her "What times do you have available to tutor me today?"

she replied

"LOL :) Tutoring late tonight but ill fit you in this week! and what is the subject??? <;)>"


ANY SUGGESTIONS WHAT I SHOULD WRITE BACK.

i want to keep it indirect but sexual
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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shes a biochem major, she might actually think its human anatomy i need tutoring it... plus i think its kinda corny to say just anatomy...no?
 
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Venom01 said:
Hey, I texted this girl this morning.. we've been on a few dates and they've been great... haven't made a move yet.

I texted her "What times do you have available to tutor me today?"

"LOL :) Tutoring late tonight but ill fit you in this week! and what is the subject??? <;)>"


ANY SUGGESTIONS WHAT I SHOULD WRITE BACK.
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Why haven't you made a move yet after 2 dates? What are you waiting for? You may be in dangerous friend zone terrority.
 
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2 Points:
1) Biochem majors don't take human anatomy as a requirement.
2) I think she'll get the joke, even if it is corny.

Or you could flip the script on her and say you don't understand the phosphorylation mechanisms of DPG2,3 in the rate determining step of glycolysis and the subsequent fermentation of lactic acid from a pyruvate substrate.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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DonJuan11 said:
Why haven't you made a move yet after 2 dates? What are you waiting for? You may be in dangerous friend zone terrority.
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Exactly my thoughts as i was reading this, once you fall into this bottomless pit of the friend zone their is little you can do to claw your way out.
You have to understand the perception of the girl as to what is going on, you say that three dates have went amazing, to her it may seem like you are building a solid friendship despite and sexual connotations you may have( and when you are in the FZ those will just be regarded as jokes regardless of the situation).
 
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Trust me, im giving you little information, there is more too it. Im not in the friend zone..

any more suggestions?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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THE FEAR OF FALLING IN LOVE!

Pathetic. You lost her.
 
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Man..

She practically opened her legs up for you via text.

Instead of having a major rock hard on inserted inside of her, you hand her a Valentine's day card.

philomentology!?!

What?! WHAT?!?!?
 
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The worst part is- he came to this thread looking for a good response, got a great one and ignored it. Why even post this thread?

O. I know why... to show me and everyone else what fail looks like.

But hey, props to you for getting to a place where you had the opportunity for success.
 
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phileomatology is the science of making out or some ****... it was well received, I played it with her personality. If she didnt know what it was she could have googled that ****.


I got "lol u r naughty :)"

i was gonna put anatomy but that was way to lame.

even if it does fail (which most likely it wont), it was definitely a learning experience anyway.

I'll keep you guys posted
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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