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The stuff has potential but at $75 for 21 days supply, it is up there. I had more fun taking their ANIMAL Stak product for under half that price. No bad crash or headaches from Stak or M-Stak. But I'm going to need to start out light and slow before I even begin taking any boosters. Maybe by Fall I can add those back in to the supplement stack.
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Bro. Ur sh!t is insane. Keep it going. I don't want to mess with that weapons-grade ish. My kidneys already have problems from passing stones/calcium building up during my days sailing the seas lolol.
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Yeah Caps, they are over the counter manufactured by Universal Nutrition. Most of it really wasn't a big deal until I took ANIMAL test and experienced all those side effects of the yohimbe. IMO, I would skip most of their supplements except for ANIMAL Pak (multivitamins) because you aren't always so sure how much of each ingredient you get with their proprietary blends. They just combine a bunch of the "t-boosters" you'd find in stores and brand it as their own formula(s). Nothing was illegal, except STAK will make you test positive for certain banned ingredients in sport sanctioning bodies. Can't remember which ingredient tho.
FlexpertHamilton
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Sleep is probably the most important, along with reducing stress, as cortisol is directly antagonistic towards T. Goes without saying weight lifting helps too.
Zinc can raise T levels if you're deficient in zinc, which you probably are, so eat more red meat without carbs for one meal, (or just supplement it). Cholesterol and vitamin D are critical for T production so eat lots of eggs, get lots of sunlight (and supplement Vitamin D too). Rhonda Patrick also recently tweeted about fish oil increasing fertility too.
Beyond that, every other T supplement is probably BS.
Zinc can raise T levels if you're deficient in zinc, which you probably are, so eat more red meat without carbs for one meal, (or just supplement it). Cholesterol and vitamin D are critical for T production so eat lots of eggs, get lots of sunlight (and supplement Vitamin D too). Rhonda Patrick also recently tweeted about fish oil increasing fertility too.
Beyond that, every other T supplement is probably BS.
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Panax Ginseng helps regulate cortisol. I been using it sparingly for a while and it definitely helps with mood and wood. I wouldn’t use it every day tho
In my opinion, you're going to get different answers based on the members here at different ages in their life.
There are going to be supplements that work better than others for certain ages.
I've done a good amount of research and have tried my fair share of supplements.
For anyone past 45yo, simple things that were once taken for granted can be a struggle the older you get.
I recommend researching testosterone boosting foods as try to do it as naturally as possible with exercise.
But when that isn't enough, I've had good luck with D-Aspartic Acid. It's basically an amino acid that tells your liver to produce more testosterone. There hasn't been any conclusive thorough testing on this but basically it has been found to help older guys or guys that weren't in shape already. This is also one of the ingredients found in many of the "Testosterone Boosting" supplements out there.
I buy a bag of this and it lasts a long time. Mix it in with a citrus type drink like lemonade or orange juice.
Cycle it 2 weeks on and 1 week off so your body doesn't get used to it.
For me, I've noticed more energy, better workouts, better sleep, no more hair falling out, better cut and definition, flatter tummy.
It may make you go to the bathroom more though.
I only take a quality multi-vitamin, vitamin D(on cloudy days or winter), and I go on and off this amino acid a couple months at a time. Occasionally, I'll take ZMA too(zinc magnesium). That's pretty much it.
Just as a reference, I've taken a Testosterone test twice, the most recent being 3 months ago. I'm on the lower spectrum of levels in the 300's. Yet if you looked at my physique, I still have that of someone in their 20's.
For $25, it might be worth it to try.
There are going to be supplements that work better than others for certain ages.
I've done a good amount of research and have tried my fair share of supplements.
For anyone past 45yo, simple things that were once taken for granted can be a struggle the older you get.
I recommend researching testosterone boosting foods as try to do it as naturally as possible with exercise.
But when that isn't enough, I've had good luck with D-Aspartic Acid. It's basically an amino acid that tells your liver to produce more testosterone. There hasn't been any conclusive thorough testing on this but basically it has been found to help older guys or guys that weren't in shape already. This is also one of the ingredients found in many of the "Testosterone Boosting" supplements out there.
I buy a bag of this and it lasts a long time. Mix it in with a citrus type drink like lemonade or orange juice.
Cycle it 2 weeks on and 1 week off so your body doesn't get used to it.
For me, I've noticed more energy, better workouts, better sleep, no more hair falling out, better cut and definition, flatter tummy.
It may make you go to the bathroom more though.
I only take a quality multi-vitamin, vitamin D(on cloudy days or winter), and I go on and off this amino acid a couple months at a time. Occasionally, I'll take ZMA too(zinc magnesium). That's pretty much it.
Just as a reference, I've taken a Testosterone test twice, the most recent being 3 months ago. I'm on the lower spectrum of levels in the 300's. Yet if you looked at my physique, I still have that of someone in their 20's.
For $25, it might be worth it to try.
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They are pretty much all hype and nonsense. Why would you pay $80 for a bottle of stuff that doesn't really work when you could buy REAL testosterone for like $40 a vial which would last 2 or 3 months instead of one like that bottle of nonsense??
Hamurabimbi
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Ashgawanda (sp?)
I've tried Tongkat Ali Root, Ashwagandha Root, Tribulus, Saw Palmetto, Maca before for 90 days and haven't really noticed anything dramatic. Even when quitting it, I didn't notice any declines or anything in stamina, energy levels, etc.
It could've been the dosage, it could've been my body not really reacting to it in favorable ways like some other people. It could've been the quality too since we know these all fall under "dietary supplements" with no kind of regulation or oversight. All I know is it didn't really do anything for me that was noticeable.
FlexpertHamilton
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None of those do much of anything except Ashwaganda, but regular old Ashwagandha root that you'd find in typical supplements is pretty weak. Try 1200mg of KSM-66 Ashwagandha and I promise you'll feel something. There are a lot of high quality studies showing it reduces cortisol levels by quite a lot.
Thanks. I didn't know that and will try it. Have you had good success with it?
Ancedotal, but I have been using red light therapy for 10 min every day. Just got my test checked and it went up 100pts. There are studies of this as well.
I would say this could be beneficial if you live in an area where there is no sun. Otherwise the sun's light spectrum does the same thing and increases Vitamin D. Just laying out for 15-20 in the sun can help quite a bit with testosterone boost.
And yes I've noticed a difference between just taking Vitamin D pills and having your body naturally create it's own Vitamin D from the sun.
It is specific to having it directly on your nuts, so if you are outside you would have to be nude for the full effects. There is actual science behind it. Also the with Red/UV they are specific wavelengths you arent getting from the sun. On a side note, really have seen noticeable effects on my face with anti aging. Have seen a lot of benefits actually, I have one of these, the big one. Thinking about purchasing another.I would say this could be beneficial if you live in an area where there is no sun. Otherwise the sun's light spectrum does the same thing and increases Vitamin D. Just laying out for 15-20 in the sun can help quite a bit with testosterone boost.
And yes I've noticed a difference between just taking Vitamin D pills and having your body naturally create it's own Vitamin D from the sun.
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Lol, didn't see that part. So instead of tanning beds, maybe there's a market for red light therapy?
A lot of salons have it for effects on the skin, had no idea until I started researching. A lot of peoples opinion I respect swear by it so gave it a go. Very pleased so far, part of my daily routine now.
I'm back on 4,000 IU vitamin d and started taking vitamin k (with 400 IU of D in it) to help absorb the calcium into my bones. I'm looking to drop down to 3,000 IU/daily for fall and winter after this. I pulled the trigger and upped it because I haven't seen a lot of sunlight here on the east coast STILL. I, sadly just found out about flaxseed oil and its estrogenic effects so I'm about to toss it out but keep going with the krill oil. I've lost a lot of my grip strength (re)starting my deadlifts last weekend, but the lockdowns killed my squat far worse. I'm thinking of avoiding creatine and any OTC T supps, but maybe retry some pre-workouts?
Moving forward, getting on a CPAP machine has helped improve my quality of sleep and recovery. Another huge change since leaving my boxing gym is doing my own workouts and taking a day off between workouts. No more chronic fatigue and no burnout experienced (yet). Overtraining cardio and/or drinking too much will drop your T-levels down and I did plenty of both to keep my old job and maintain sanity.
Moving forward, getting on a CPAP machine has helped improve my quality of sleep and recovery. Another huge change since leaving my boxing gym is doing my own workouts and taking a day off between workouts. No more chronic fatigue and no burnout experienced (yet). Overtraining cardio and/or drinking too much will drop your T-levels down and I did plenty of both to keep my old job and maintain sanity.
