Testosterone at 527

[Who Dares Win]

The main thing I noticed other than being more tired in the mornings when I woke up was that I would kill myself in the gym and not lose any weight past a certain point, especially around my abdominal area.

Once I got that fixed the abdominal fat started dropping and then I was able to get back into really good shape again.

Did you notice any change in fat location pattern before and after?

Anyway after my 40s I'll try my best to find a doctor to boost me up...tired of these boomers who still think creatine is doping.

 

[jaygreenb]

I'm not sure how many of you have had this checked, but you know if 527 is good? It says it's in normal range, but I'm 43 and you know dudes start losing muscle and getting fat around this time.

Anecdotal, but try redlight therapy. I raised my test levels 100 pts with it, a lot of people swear by it too. There aren't any rigorous studies on it but I have noticed several benefits. I also take Tongkat Ali and ZMA. This is the one I have, I do it a few times a week.

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[RBK]

You need a full panel, SBGH, E2, free test.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

there is no correlation between erection and t levels …

True...it's more related to progesterone

 

[BackInTheGame78]

You need a full panel, SBGH, E2, free test.

You forgot DHEA-S

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Weight lifting 5 days a week.

I found a guy 32 years old with natural test level of 1,329. He looked like one of those typical skinny *******s that you wonder how he has all these women, naturally lean around 8% or so body fat. 5'10" and 165lbs. There were a few other 900 plus guys on those threads, i have to look it up. Some peoples test is really high.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I found a guy 32 years old with natural test level of 1,329. He looked like one of those typical skinny *******s that you wonder how he has all these women, naturally lean around 8% or so body fat. 5'10" and 165lbs. There were a few other 900 plus guys on those threads, i have to look it up. Some peoples test is really high.

If it was that high he had some type of hormonal disorder.

 

[Machine10033]

Testosterone is pretty volatile.

If is often a snap shot of your current lifestyle. If your a 570 look at your diet, hydration, training and sleep. If they are all on par if you have any disruption in them.. you will probably see your testosterone drop. If all of those are garbage at the time of your blood work you can definitely bring that up.

The benefits of testosterone optimization or replacement therapy as they call it.. is your testosterone will pretty much be well above normal no matter what you have going on.

If you remain natural you will need to train much smarter and prioritize rest and recovery as you age... or again your hormones can take a hit.

I am on testosterone and do not think I could maintain my quality of life. I wake up most mornings at 330... get my workout in and cardio, spring and summer I play in an adult baseball league.. I also golf competitively. So I am often performing 4-6 hours of physical activity a day.. plus working full time. My last “natural” year was when I was 38 years old and I was struggling.

Testosterone let’s me recover like i did as a teen. My sleep is much better, sex drive is crazy... strength goes up when I want it too... fat melts off when I am cutting... if you have the money and go thru a doctor it will definitely increase your quality of life.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Testosterone is pretty volatile.

If is often a snap shot of your current lifestyle. If your a 570 look at your diet, hydration, training and sleep. If they are all on par if you have any disruption in them.. you will probably see your testosterone drop. If all of those are garbage at the time of your blood work you can definitely bring that up.

The benefits of testosterone optimization or replacement therapy as they call it.. is your testosterone will pretty much be well above normal no matter what you have going on.

If you remain natural you will need to train much smarter and prioritize rest and recovery as you age... or again your hormones can take a hit.

I am on testosterone and do not think I could maintain my quality of life. I wake up most mornings at 330... get my workout in and cardio, spring and summer I play in an adult baseball league.. I also golf competitively. So I am often performing 4-6 hours of physical activity a day.. plus working full time. My last “natural” year was when I was 38 years old and I was struggling.

Testosterone let’s me recover like i did as a teen. My sleep is much better, sex drive is crazy... strength goes up when I want it too... fat melts off when I am cutting... if you have the money and go thru a doctor it will definitely increase your quality of life.

Also refined sugar is a T killer, it can drop levels by up to 25% rather quickly

 

[lost_blackbird]

Personally, I think T levels are a moot point if like me you, aren't interested in sex anyway.
I've no idea what mine are and have no interest in finding out. For me the main problem with
being a heterosexual male is that you have to **** women. It's like patronising a restaurant that
only serves one dish. Forced by my own sexuality into that arrangement, after a while I'd sooner
starve than eat there again. Not into guys or other people in general so it's that or nothing.
I choose nothing.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Personally, I think T levels are a moot point if like me you, aren't interested in sex anyway.
I've no idea what mine are and have no interest in finding out. For me the main problem with
being a heterosexual male is that you have to **** women. It's like patronising a restaurant that
only serves one dish. Forced by my own sexuality into that arrangement, after a while I'd sooner
starve than eat there again. Not into guys or other people in general so it's that or nothing.
I choose nothing.

Spoken like a person with low T.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I was not aware of this. Thanks for stating it. Something to look into.

Men experience an abrupt decrease in testosterone levels after sugar intake, study finds - Diabetes

Researchers from Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston have found that glucose ingestion was associated with a significant decrease in the male hormone testosterone. The study, published in the journal Clinical Endocrinology, shows that 75g of sugar intake causes a 25 per cent drop in...

www.diabetes.co.uk

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[lost_blackbird]

Spoken like a person with low T.

Spoken like a person with just the one 'fits all scenarios' argument.
You forgot to recommend weightlifting.

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[BackInTheGame78]

Spoken like a person with just the one 'fits all scenarios' argument.
You forgot to recommend weightlifting.

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Hormones control actions and feelings, not the other way around.

 

[lost_blackbird]

Sigh... Yeah, sure mate. It's hormones that have made me largely reclusive. Not the state of society in general.
Nah, can't be that....
So your advice is basically to eat some broccoli and do a few press-ups and everything that irks me will just fade
away. Sure thing bud. While we're chatting I have a bridge for sale, it's in London though...

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Personally, I think T levels are a moot point if like me you, aren't interested in sex anyway.
I've no idea what mine are and have no interest in finding out. For me the main problem with
being a heterosexual male is that you have to **** women. It's like patronising a restaurant that
only serves one dish. Forced by my own sexuality into that arrangement, after a while I'd sooner
starve than eat there again. Not into guys or other people in general so it's that or nothing.
I choose nothing.

Do you care about performing in life for YOURSELF? If so T-levels matter greatly!

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Don’t forget prolactin levels…

 

[EyeBRollin]

Just had mine tested. 453. I don’t know what to compare it to. If I test this every year does it fluctuate up and down or is it a linear progression/regression over time?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Just had mine tested. 453. I don’t know what to compare it to. If I test this every year does it fluctuate up and down or is it a linear progression/regression over time?

It can fluctuate wildly - that’s total t, what’s your ft and shbg? What’s your diet like? Do you carry fat? Your levels are normal at your age. Of course some people are higher and lower but you’re in range.

 

[EyeBRollin]

It can fluctuate wildly - that’s total t, what’s your ft and shbg? What’s your diet like? Do you carry fat? Your levels are normal at your age. Of course some people are higher and lower but you’re in range.

FT and SHBG?

I don’t carry much fat. Probably 10-15% my abs are always visible. My fasting glucose and triglycerides are normal/low (89 and 61). My diet is very clean no sugar or refined carbs, no fried foods. Recently I dropped red meat and eggs at the urging of my doctor. My main protein sources are fish at this point. My cholesterol has been steadily trending upward year over year Doc wants me to consider a statin. I am concerned that cutting out things like meat, dairy, and eggs forever will nuke my testosterone.