"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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testing the waters? friend or lover?

bumblebee

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I'm in college and friends with a girl...not super close nor just acquaintances. We have eaten a few times and hung out at each others' places. I have flaked on her (not call back or follow up on details for an outing) and vice versa.

We were introduced to each other and now have mutual friends..I have hung out with these mutual friends and the girl as a group for a few times. They would probably approve if we started dating.

We joke around a lot (usually verbal, sometimes physical touching/punching) and sometimes call each other for no reason...lighthearted stuff.

I have started to think about possibly pursuing her--maybe get into a relationship.

How do I test out if she would be respond favorably to the idea of dating?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Thatfeel21

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bring her back to ya place, pop in a movie, and get the touching
 

Bible_Belt

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How do I test out if she would be respond favorably to the idea of dating?

get her alone, stroke her hair, gaze into her eyes, and kiss her. You can search for 'kiss test.' If she will be alone with you and let you touch her hair, then she wants to kiss you. And if she will kiss you, then she wants to have sex with you. "Dating" should be best thought of as what you do while resting between sex.
 
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