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Talking to a Feminist Guy

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So... I had a friend he is married, and he is also kind of intelectual guy. But we had one conversation that just showed me to not keep him around.

We started talking about feminism, because he become annoyed that I said him I'm enjoying being single.

I positioned myself like that: Hey man, I practice respect above everything, I don't hate people or women... In fact I love women... The only thing I don't agree is with that feminism ideology... For me it's just too extreme and full of hate, and as you said men do a lot of sh1t with women during our history, I don't think this is going to solve anything. Anyways, I got your point.

Then, he sent me a article from a leftist media that saids: Femicide cases increase 76% in the 1st quarter of 2019 in SP (São Paulo); number of women victims of homicide falls. It's from "Globo" idk if anyone knows it here in brazil... but their news are extremely leftist and extremely nonsense.

So I ask him about the cases where men were false accused by women. He said those are only specific cases.

Also he said we men just treat women like objects. I didn't even waste my time answering that!! LOL

Just replied: Yes man, that's why I took respect so seriously. I try to learn and use it everyday in my life.

He said he needs to go, then told me that we cannot feel superior than someone, saying things to show we are superior. WTF?? I just said I value respect above any ideology.

I've had some experiences talking feminists. They cannot have healthy debate. In any point I've made a offense... but he still felt offended because I did not agree (but said that respect that point of view) with those ideals!

Sometimes I got really affraid of that. What kind of thing someone can make with so much hate? Like a woman said a to me one time: "I'm feminist, and my goal is to cut off all men's penises, that's why I'm on Tinder". hahahahah... And she was serious about that!
 
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I know this 'type' quite well.
In fact, it pains me to openly admit this, but in my youth (having a mother that was a charter member of N.O.W. and growing up on Norman Lear TV programs) I was borderline on that sort of thinking, but no longer.

Here are examples I say to feminist women and self-proclaimed feminist men.

There was once a time when women's liberation was necessary, but no longer because equal rights have now been achieved.

For instance; When a democratic female presidential candidate (from supposed "humble beginnings") can win the majority of votes (HRC in 2016) their goal has been accomplished.

Also, Gloria Steinem; founder of N.O.W. ("National Organization for Women") has morphed into the exact chauvinistic behavior she originally opposed (rallying women to vote of HRC for no other reason than being a female). When Gloria Steinem can become her biggest liability, it's "game over" for the feminist cause.
 
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I think feminism in the political sense is more committed to female supremacy.
Unfortunately, it's almost always the case that those complaining the loudest about "disadvantage" are really seeking advantage....which is why equality under the law is never sufficient for such people; there is no such thing as equality, anyway...not even among my own children, in my own home, where I am the law, and I seek to give them each equal opportunities and encouragement, and where I want them all to achieve comparable degrees of excellence. There is no way to make them all equal, without hobbling some and propping up others...and they still won't all be equal... equally able ... equally happy ... equally loved. There is no equality but in the morgue, and that's the type of macabre society no-one should desire, and even fewer have the Right to impose.
 

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I know a lot of women who hate modern feminists.

They basically just have an inferiority complex and think they speak for everyone when lashing out because there are plenty enough women just like them to make them feel like they’re not alone.

What’s hilarious is that the transgender community (men who transition to women in particular) are fvcking it all up for modern feminists. Biological men who trans into women and collect gold medals left and right competing in women’s olympics pisses all over the excessive and unrealistic equality ideology feminists spew.

Just sit back and watch with some popcorn. It’s great.
 

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Agree with all!

The funny fact is that, they talk so much about hate, and harming women... But they're basically doing everything they disagree.

And I never for example would approve a man punching a woman, or doing any kind of harm. Also I do not think it's correct for a man to have more advantages in society than woman. The opposite too.
 

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I know a lot of women who hate modern feminists.

They basically just have an inferiority complex and think they speak for everyone when lashing out because there are plenty enough women just like them to make them feel like they’re not alone.

What’s hilarious is that the transgender community (men who transition to women in particular) are fvcking it all up for modern feminists. Biological men who trans into women and collect gold medals left and right competing in women’s olympics pisses all over the excessive and unrealistic equality ideology feminists spew.

Just sit back and watch with some popcorn. It’s great.
And the most ironic things about this, its that its mostly women and feminist pushing that trans agenda.

They are the one shooting themselves in the foot, it make me greatly doubt their common sense and it also makes me wonder what kind of non-sense and damage an elected women president could do in a country like the US.

We have a man feminist here in Canada and its not going great at all. The country has never been that devided.
 
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I know a lot of women who hate modern feminists.

They basically just have an inferiority complex and think they speak for everyone when lashing out because there are plenty enough women just like them to make them feel like they’re not alone.

What’s hilarious is that the transgender community (men who transition to women in particular) are fvcking it all up for modern feminists. Biological men who trans into women and collect gold medals left and right competing in women’s olympics pisses all over the excessive and unrealistic equality ideology feminists spew.

Just sit back and watch with some popcorn. It’s great.
I think theyre annoying, but I kind of feel sorry for them. Most modern feminists have had a bad experience with men in their past which has caused them to think the way they do. It's usually something big like the father not being around, being abused growing up, or a psycho ex boyfriend. They're just acting out of trauma, bitterness and resentment.

You can say the same about hard-core MGTOW guys.
 

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They talk about equal rights, but what they want is power over Men.

In the end, their goal is to ensure there is not equal accountability.

This is why if, due to a man, a woman loses a non-viable fetus that is three months old in her womb, a man can be charged with murder. He is accountable.

But she can abort it at any point if she chooses. She is not accountable.

It is only murder when she doesn't do it. See the issue?
 

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I think theyre annoying, but I kind of feel sorry for them. Most modern feminists have had a bad experience with men in their past which has caused them to think the way they do. It's usually something big like the father not being around, being abused growing up, or a psycho ex boyfriend. They're just acting out of trauma, bitterness and resentment.

You can say the same about hard-core MGTOW guys.
This is not true. I could not disagree more.

Most feminists come from middle class backgrounds where they are well looked after and privileged but decide to rebel against the status quo and their own fathers who were nothing but good to them

Ghetto girls (or chavs here in UK) or girls from terrible backgrounds with awful male role models are never feminist. On the contrary, they tend to grow up and become $luts
 

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I think theyre annoying, but I kind of feel sorry for them. Most modern feminists have had a bad experience with men in their past which has caused them to think the way they do. It's usually something big like the father not being around, being abused growing up, or a psycho ex boyfriend. They're just acting out of trauma, bitterness and resentment.

You can say the same about hard-core MGTOW guys.
Have to completely disagree here as well.

These women have bewn TAUGHT their whole lives that they are victims and entitled.

Once you start to see the "matrix" you can see the daily "programming" on nearly every tv show or movie.
 

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I think theyre annoying, but I kind of feel sorry for them. Most modern feminists have had a bad experience with men in their past which has caused them to think the way they do. It's usually something big like the father not being around, being abused growing up, or a psycho ex boyfriend. They're just acting out of trauma, bitterness and resentment.

You can say the same about hard-core MGTOW guys.
Then one day at 40 they realize their feminism left them childless and bitter with a house full of cats.
 
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This is not true. I could not disagree more.

Most feminists come from middle class backgrounds where they are well looked after and privileged but decide to rebel against the status quo and their own fathers who were nothing but good to them

Ghetto girls (or chavs here in UK) or girls from terrible backgrounds with awful male role models are never feminist. On the contrary, they tend to grow up and become $luts
I can only speak of the girls I've dated. We might have different experiences.

I have to say that having a negative past experience with men, and being middle class are not mutually exclusive things. My first year of college I dated a girl who was from a rich family, but she was abused leading her to feminist leaning ideologies.

I can agree that the middle class girls who are spoilt by their family can look to feminism as way to find something to do. Its like their life is so comfortable and easy that they need to find a challenge.
 

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I can only speak of the girls I've dated. We might have different experiences.

I have to say that having a negative past experience with men, and being middle class are not mutually exclusive things. My first year of college I dated a girl who was from a rich family, but she was abused leading her to feminist leaning ideologies.

I can agree that the middle class girls who are spoilt by their family can look to feminism as way to find something to do. Its like their life is so comfortable and easy that they need to find a challenge.
Was she abused? Or did she just SAY she was abused?

Remember, women will fvck another guy and say "it just happened".

They will also falsely accuse men of rape, in order to save their reputation.

They also believe they are oppressed even though in the West they have more rights than men.

They ALSO ignore REAL oppression in other parts of the world and focus ONLY on the false oppression of the West.

For the most part, many of them are divorced from reality and they would seek to divorce you from that same reality.

When they do, they are successfully pulling you into their frame, which is a place you never want to be in.
 

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I think theyre annoying, but I kind of feel sorry for them. Most modern feminists have had a bad experience with men in their past which has caused them to think the way they do. It's usually something big like the father not being around, being abused growing up, or a psycho ex boyfriend. They're just acting out of trauma, bitterness and resentment.

You can say the same about hard-core MGTOW guys.
A feminist who loves her man and shields him from the various parts of the societal norms can be a tremendous asset.
 

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Was she abused? Or did she just SAY she was abused?

Remember, women will fvck another guy and say "it just happened".

They will also falsely accuse men of rape, in order to save their reputation.

They also believe they are oppressed even though in the West they have more rights than men.

They ALSO ignore REAL oppression in other parts of the world and focus ONLY on the false oppression of the West.

For the most part, many of them are divorced from reality and they would seek to divorce you from that same reality.

When they do, they are successfully pulling you into their frame, which is a place you never want to be in.
No I'm pretty sure that it was for real. In the beginning stages of dating her she was definitely uncomfortable with intimacy, took more time than the average girl to get her comfortable. Just from the way she talked about it came accross as genuine.

But I do admit that some women will twist the truth and lie about being abused for attention and sympathy.

I think the less they bring up feminism, the easier it is to stay in your frame. It's the ones that are super into discussing feminist theory and converting you that you need to watch out for.
 
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