"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Sneaky Pete

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A plate I have been spinning for awhile now has an bad habit. She is a hot milf, 12 yrs older than me. Man she can fvck. My issue is it seems like every time we are together, she talks about her ex husband and even her former live-in lovers. To the point that I know their names, and what phase of life she was with them at and I find it both rude and disrespectful. I haven’t said anything to her about it to her and just let her ramble on. To keep it interesting I started keeping track of how many times during the course of the night she mentions a former lover. Sometimes it can be as many as 15 times over the course of a few hrs. If her pvzzy wasn’t great I would have dumped her long ago, besides I also like the way she sux cocx. Am I being pety? Should I let her go or just ignore the behavior?
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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A plate I have been spinning for awhile now has an bad habit. She is a hot milf, 12 yrs older than me. Man she can fvck. My issue is it seems like every time we are together, she talks about her ex husband and even her former live-in lovers. To the point that I know their names, and what phase of life she was with them at and I find it both rude and disrespectful. I haven’t said anything to her about and just let her ramble on. To keep it interesting I started keeping track of how many times during the course of the night she mentions a former lover. Sometimes it can be as many as 15 times over the course of a few hrs. If her pvzzy wasn’t great I would have dumped her long ago, besides I also like the way she sux cocx. Am I being pety? Should I let her go or just ignore the behavior?
She can’t let go of her past, so let her go. You deserve a womans 100% attention level.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Why care if she's a plate?

If you consider LTR.

Than i would say: " Honey, that's great if they are that great. Why not go back to them"
 

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I have considered telling her that her behavior is rude and give her the chance to correct it. Is that too beta?
Tell the only person you want to hear about is the current her, not the past her. Leave her ex’s out of it.
Her long term behavior after that should tell you if she’s moving in the same forward direction as you.
 
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Why care if she's a plate?

If you consider LTR.

Than i would say: " Honey, that's great if they are that great. Why not go back to them"
If it wasn’t for this bad behavior, Id consider her for LTR but I don’t want to hear about these other guys for an extended period of time.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Von

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If it wasn’t for this bad behavior, Id consider her for LTR but I don’t want to hear about these other guys for an extended period of time.
Hence my quote about telling to go back to them.

So you would LTR her if she stop. Make her stop.
I told you how
 

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Yeah this is pretty much AWALT, the older they are the more baggage and more ex carousels to talk about. Pretty obvious she was alpha widowed a loooong time ago.

You could mirror her behavior, if she has any intelligence she'll get the hint and cut down the 15x in a couple hrs??

She can fük and suck cause she's done it a lot and SHE knowns that's truely all she has to really offer.

Hot milfs typically have a short shelf life as a plate, which it seems you have just figured out.
 

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Just tell her man. Nothing beta about leading. No guy would find it normal for her going on incessantly about her exes.
Its not like she is talking about them as the main subject. If we are talking about subject it’s like oh Michael and I did that, or if it’s what restaurant to go eat at, she’ll say something like it’s great, Steve and I ate there before. I’m starting to get tired of all that talk and thinking it might just be a red flag that she is not LTR material.
 

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Its not like she is talking about them as the main subject. If we are talking about subject it’s like oh Michael and I did that, or if it’s what restaurant to go eat at, she’ll say something like it’s great, Steve and I ate there before. I’m starting to get tired of all that talk and thinking it might just be a red flag that she is not LTR material.
Do you respect her enough to not bring up your prior lays? Why doesn’t she.
 

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Do you respect her enough to not bring up your prior lays? Why doesn’t she.
She was married for seven yrs. had a live-in for another 6 and they almost got married. The guys she speaks of had significance and werenot casual FWB or the like. I have very rarely mentioned anyone from my past but have thought about starting to see how she responds. If it bothers her and she brings it up then I would point out her behavior.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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She was married for seven yrs. had a live-in for another 6 and they almost got married. The guys she speaks of had significance and werenot casual FWB or the like. I have very rarely mentioned anyone from my past but have thought about starting to see how she responds. If it bothers her and she brings it up then I would point out her behavior.
Very good plan of action.
 
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She was married for seven yrs. had a live-in for another 6 and they almost got married. The guys she speaks of had significance and werenot casual FWB or the like. I have very rarely mentioned anyone from my past but have thought about starting to see how she responds. If it bothers her and she brings it up then I would point out her behavior.
She knows she's just a plate, she remembers being something more to two other guys and she's reminding herself and you of that in a semi passive aggressive way.
 

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She was married for seven yrs. had a live-in for another 6 and they almost got married. The guys she speaks of had significance and werenot casual FWB or the like. I have very rarely mentioned anyone from my past but have thought about starting to see how she responds. If it bothers her and she brings it up then I would point out her behavior.
Just express yourself like a grown man and leave all the passive-aggressive behavior to the women. You don't have to be rude about it, rather blunt. XYZ.
X, this is what you do that I don't appreciate. Y, this is how it makes me feel. Z, this is how I would rather you behave. From there, she either, respects/complies and all is peaches and cream or she doesn't respect/doesn't comply and gets the boot.
 

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She is a alpha widow.. A woman like that will never truely give herself to you.. You will be 3rd or 4th on her list..

However if you see her more than just a plate, then let her know about her disrespectful behaviour.

Be prepared for some backlash!
 

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“She is a alpha widow.. A woman like that will never truely give herself to you.. You will be 3rd or 4th on her list..

However if you see her more than just a plate, then let her know about her disrespectful behaviour.

Be prepared for some backlash!”

I think you are right, I will always be 3rd or 4th. I think I’m in love w her, but I don’t think I can settle for #4.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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