"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Talk about clueless! I don't even know the right way to ask a girl out!

nismo-4

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And the only ways I know of actually fail! Here are a few:

Let's hang out sometime!
I wanna get together someday!
Wanna go out?

I don't use these lines after a string of rejections. Most times, since I don't know what to do, I either guess what I'm supposed to say (with awkward results), or I don't make a move at all. When I guess, I usually get laughed at by guys watching. When I don't move, I feel stupid. I lose either way of course.

How do some of you guys ask a girl out on a date, or just plain ask her out?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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619joe

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Your lines seem too forced and awkward."I wanna get together someday" is too direct bro and It wont work.

"Lets hang out sometime" is perfectly fine.If you follow it up with a number close then I dont see it failing.UNLESS your interaction with her was poor and you didnt make her feel completly comfortable around you then I could see you getting rejected.

In terms of guys watching,I dont give two flying ****'s infact now Id prefer if guys watch to see the how the pros do it.JK but you know what I mean based on the fact that if they wanna watch,show em how its done and just get the mindset in your head that they are "afc's wanting to learn" and you gotta teach em how its done.

If thats too much man and maybe you cant even number close infront of people,get her facebook atleast.Message her a bit here n there and just tell her "hey lets hit up starbucks one day how about _____ OR whats your number lemme call you up someday and well chill"

One last thing,dont make a move just for the sake of making a move.If you dont feel your interaction is going well,dont bother even trying to ask her out because your chances of rejection will be alot higher
 

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Your lines are all too vague. You need to be more specific. Have a real plan (with specific date/time and location) and invite her to come along.
 
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"I'd like to get to know you a little better. Me and my friend are going to _______ on Saturday, would you like to tag along with us? My treat."

Has worked wonders for me. The presence of a friend makes it a little less awkward and helps you be the funnest you can be (friends get you pumped). Note- don't take this as a date though, because the presence of the friend negates this. This is a "get to know you" exercise. Towards the end, ask for a real date.

Obviously, this only works under certain circumstances, but I find it a fair technique.
 

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nismo-4 said:
Let's hang out sometime!
I wanna get together someday!
Wanna go out?
This is not specific enough. You're the man, you're supposed to lead. Give them a place and a time, so all it comes down to is a 'yes' or 'no' from them.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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