"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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drift king

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Met this HB 7 in gym, got talking flirting a bit.

Next time seen her she was with some dude there. Didn't let that fluster me, went over to talk when she was alone and got to the suggestion of training together sometime, went for the number close, she agreed, then gives me the bullsh*t line of 'i dont know my number..' i responded with 'huh? how do you not know your number??' then she gave me some crap about giving it to me next time.

i ended up leaving it with the line 'i guess you'll miss out then..' and i walk away.

been week and a bit and seen her today for first time, at first i just blanked and ignored her if i ever crossed the vicinity of where she was, not looking in her direction.

When she was closer to me i just said hey to her from a distance thats it and continued what i was doing.

She then comes over to me to chat and i think i made the mistake of being too flirty rather than acting uninterested and distant.

Was she just testing me to see if i was still interested?
cos the way i was acting prior to that was of someone who wasn't.

i kinda felt like maybe she was doing this more for herself out of guilt rather than anything else.

Long story short after about 2mins talk she was about to walk away so i just said see ya.

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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sexxyback

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game over. doesn't really matter what you do at this point.
 

ryannath

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The other guy was her bf maybe. And she wasn't interested in you. We can't win them all. It was nothing you did wrong probably.
 

Pimp-sicle

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drift king said:
fair play. where do you think the mistake was?

Well based off that vague description of the situation, I would say you didn't make a mistake, she just wasn't interested.

But if I had to take a better guess, I'd say you didn't create any sort of attraction with her before you went in for the # close. If you work on improving one aspect of your game, work on improving rapport with a girl. It will get you faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrr!!




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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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drift king

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thanks. i guess her coming up to me really meant nothing at all?
 
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