"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Subtle signs of you being in the "Friend Zone"?

LostAndConfused

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Hey guys, there's this girl I'm really getting mixed messages from. One one hand, she changes her tone when she talks to me compared to others, in a good way I think, but on the other hand she says things like "Oh I love you" (and we arent dating) and other subtle indicators that she has already placed me in the friend zone.

So anyways does anyone know about ways to indicate if I'm in the friend zone or not? Because I don't want to even talk with her if I'm already placed in that zone (sorry b****, I don't want to hear about your problems with other guys)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Grand Wizzard Alamar

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Girls say stuff like I love you to guys (and other girls) all the time.
It could be either way.
 

Axcell

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There are many signs, see the way she talks to you and see the way you talk to her. The most common indicator of whether you are in the friends zone or not is whether you find yourself as being the guy she goes to when another guy does something to her.

Example:
A girl has a boyfriend, boyfriend is being an ass to her. She goes to you to tell her all your problems too, as if you are a shoulder to cry on.

Once you put yourself in as a severe situation as above, it is VERY difficult to remove yourself from this place FYI.

Hope I helped,
Nick.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Grand Wizzard Alamar

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What happens if you stop being a shoulder for her?
"I don't care about your boyfriend. If you have a problem with him, get rid of him or deal with it yourself."

Then change the subject and add some djing techniques to make yourself seem better in her eyes...
 

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It would create the scarcity mentality, but it is easier to actually NEVER get into the friendszone.

OP: ask her out to cut through all the little head games that you are playing with yourself. Don't overanalyze because women cannot be figured out. Just go and ask her out.

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Grand Wizzard Alamar

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Maybe it would help to have a list somewhere of what a friend is/does and what a non-friend is/does.

With a list like that, if possible and if very accurate, you'd know exactly what you'd have to do to stay away from friendships, the relationship destroyer.

Does a list like that exist anywhere?
 
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