"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Subtle signs of you being in the "Friend Zone"?

LostAndConfused

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Hey guys, there's this girl I'm really getting mixed messages from. One one hand, she changes her tone when she talks to me compared to others, in a good way I think, but on the other hand she says things like "Oh I love you" (and we arent dating) and other subtle indicators that she has already placed me in the friend zone.

So anyways does anyone know about ways to indicate if I'm in the friend zone or not? Because I don't want to even talk with her if I'm already placed in that zone (sorry b****, I don't want to hear about your problems with other guys)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Grand Wizzard Alamar

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Girls say stuff like I love you to guys (and other girls) all the time.
It could be either way.
 

Axcell

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There are many signs, see the way she talks to you and see the way you talk to her. The most common indicator of whether you are in the friends zone or not is whether you find yourself as being the guy she goes to when another guy does something to her.

Example:
A girl has a boyfriend, boyfriend is being an ass to her. She goes to you to tell her all your problems too, as if you are a shoulder to cry on.

Once you put yourself in as a severe situation as above, it is VERY difficult to remove yourself from this place FYI.

Hope I helped,
Nick.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Grand Wizzard Alamar

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What happens if you stop being a shoulder for her?
"I don't care about your boyfriend. If you have a problem with him, get rid of him or deal with it yourself."

Then change the subject and add some djing techniques to make yourself seem better in her eyes...
 

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It would create the scarcity mentality, but it is easier to actually NEVER get into the friendszone.

OP: ask her out to cut through all the little head games that you are playing with yourself. Don't overanalyze because women cannot be figured out. Just go and ask her out.

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Grand Wizzard Alamar

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Maybe it would help to have a list somewhere of what a friend is/does and what a non-friend is/does.

With a list like that, if possible and if very accurate, you'd know exactly what you'd have to do to stay away from friendships, the relationship destroyer.

Does a list like that exist anywhere?
 
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