"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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“There is nothing more empowering for a man than rejecting an attractive woman or one who steps out of line”
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I will not tell you any more Brooks. There are two schools of thought going on here. I don’t know EyeOnThePrize but I’m pretty sure he’s cool.
He may understand you better than I.

This is why I want you to read “The Rational Male.
There is a lesson in this. It has to do with trying to keep a woman or getting one back. It’s way too much trouble and the outcome is poor. Very poor. I am well past any thoughts of keeping a woman around if any less than optimum situation comes up.
Your call. It must always be your call.
Sure. My call, I agree. I’ve heard Eye’s thiughtsnon it and it worth mulling over. But I’d also like to know your thoughts on an ultimatum in this scenerio. Or if ultimatums are sure fire ways to destruction
 

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just to expand Brooks, it means being able to walk away and mean it. always be in that state. be strict with her. if a girl does something i told her not to i give her less of my time. simple. i start to do more things without her. don't think about labels, that'll get you in trouble. be faithful and nice because you like her, not because you have a label. if she violates your respect then simply state what isn't working for you. if she doesn't work on it you walk. you gotta really mean it though. like Epic said, she'll see through you if you try to fake it. you gotta own it.
 

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just to expand Brooks, it means being able to walk away and mean it. always be in that state. be strict with her. if a girl does something i told her not to i give her less of my time. simple. i start to do more things without her. don't think about labels, that'll get you in trouble. be faithful and nice because you like her, not because you have a label. if she violates your respect then simply state what isn't working for you. if she doesn't work on it you walk. you gotta really mean it though. like Epic said, she'll see through you if you try to fake it. you gotta own it.
But if I don’t give the ultimatum, then she still has free range to talk to him. Nothing is final. With the ultimatum I clearly state what fits and what doesn’t, and if she can’t get on board with that, then I walk right then and there. Doesn’t the ultimatum make more sense.

I hear what you’re saying about the labels. It’s good.
 

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Sure. My call, I agree. I’ve heard Eye’s thiughtsnon it and it worth mulling over. But I’d also like to know your thoughts on an ultimatum in this scenerio. Or if ultimatums are sure fire ways to destruction
Ultimatums are part of a weak frame. In that respect he is right.
So he has a valid point. Just fukking dump her.

She won’t and can’t comply with your ultimatum.
But you can’t do that because your ultimatum is a last ditch effort to hold onto her. She knows this. You cannot win this. That ultimatum is the display of a weak man.

She will NOT comply. She will just take it even more covert and still slay you.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ultimatums are part of a weak frame. In that respect he is right.
So he has a valid point. Just fukking dump her.

She won’t and can’t comply with your ultimatum.
But you can’t do that because your ultimatum is a last ditch effort to hold onto her. She knows this. You cannot win this. That ultimatum is the display of a weak man.

She will NOT comply. She will just take it even more covert and still slay you.
Right. Right.

I don’t want to dump.. YET

So the game plan would be to now incorporate boundaries. And massage all this weakness I’ve put in.. out. Always willing to walk.
 

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Focusing on developing ways to become a strong masculine man in my life. So it creates true desire with my girlfriend (or a future one if this one doesn’t workout).

And I’m looking for ways to start my journey on this. The above is a quote from an article and it states what women truly respond to as opposed to the nice guy shtick of buying or negotiating her attraction with chores or gifts.

What are some of the pillars which one needs to focus on with importance in dealing with girlfriends?
Lift weights
Become your mental point of origin
 

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What are some of the pillars which one needs to focus on with importance in dealing with girlfriends?
Physical fitness, it's same for her as for you beauty in a woman. Would you bang a super model while in a committed relationship? Will she bang a body builder while in committed relationship? Yes!
 

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Physical fitness, it's same for her as for you beauty in a woman. Would you bang a super model while in a committed relationship? Will she bang a body builder while in committed relationship? Yes!
I don’t think most women would cheat on a guy for a body builder..
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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