Stopping Porn

[Pandora]

I responded to your comment how you consider stopping with porn is difficult because it's so accessible and 24/7 available. I didn't say you whined about it, but I compare the difficulty of stopping porn with hardcore addictions like smoking and alcohol, and yes, sugar. Compared to that, not watching porn is incredibly easy.

Most men in the developed world struggle with porn addiction. It is so ubiquitous that they cant even get a control group when scientist try to study it. There are great TED talks about it.

Is it as difficult as stopping cigarettes prob not but it is still difficult.

I think a lot of men on here struggle too but there is a lot of posturing online. If anyone watches a lot of porn it would be some guys on a sedcution forum ( we have incels lurking).

Anyways I agree with you though. No shade intended.

 

[Money & Muscle]

If anyone watches a lot of porn it would be some guys on a sedcution forum ( we have incels lurking).

When I was a virgin/incel, I used it as a cope. Even when I wasn't a virgin, but in a sexless marriage, i used it as a cope.

Now I'm getting laid 3x a week on a slow week and it's usually more like 5+... but I still want to watch porn.

I'm ADHD (dopamine feedback disruption) and have been 'addicted' to video games, social media, and other various cheap dopamine sources. I've beaten the others by fully deleting them, but porn is still here and accessible whether i delete it or not. I know I'm a high libido guy, but most folks struggling with porn addiction are struggling because incel/lackluster sex life...

Idk what the point of me saying all this is, I guess I'm just sharing my n=1 experience.

 

[Money & Muscle]

I just installed Bulldog Blocker onto my phone.

 

[Pandora]

When I was a virgin/incel, I used it as a cope. Even when I wasn't a virgin, but in a sexless marriage, i used it as a cope.

Now I'm getting laid 3x a week on a slow week and it's usually more like 5+... but I still want to watch porn.

I'm ADHD (dopamine feedback disruption) and have been 'addicted' to video games, social media, and other various cheap dopamine sources. I've beaten the others by fully deleting them, but porn is still here and accessible whether i delete it or not. I know I'm a high libido guy, but most folks struggling with porn addiction are struggling because incel/lackluster sex life...

Idk what the point of me saying all this is, I guess I'm just sharing my n=1 experience.

Naw bro guys that are getting tail are still struggling. Guys dont talk about it because they are afraid of looking lame. Trust me on this. It is a ubiquitous problem from incels to players. In fact I used to smash a cute girl and then fap again because I got addicted to the high. Now I am too old for all that.

One of my homies who smashes a lot of women ( bigger women) has the same issue. You just get addicted to the dopamine release of orgasm.

You are perfectly normal. Like I said the vast majority of guys use porn they just like to act like they dont. Porn sites and OF would not be so popular if they were not being used.

What will work is to take a 2-3 day vacation away from electronics and your computer etc. Go back to nature and then come back. This works. Or use psychedelics or weed lol.

 

[Learning Curve]

Actually, as addictions go, porn is one of the easier ones to quit; much easier than opiates, nicotine and alcohol, since you can easily avoid watching porn.

Disagree.

Porn is one of the hardest to quit as with any addiction in our century.

Easily accessible, 24 hours available.

You can't just avoid it. If you want to watch it then you just pull up your phone or your laptop.

It's not a food addiction, or a nicotine addiction but a brain dopamine addiction. And if you know anything about dopamine it's like nicotine, it wants more each time you give it more.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

You can't just avoid it. If you want to watch it then you just pull up your phone or your laptop.

Tech is your support in this area. All you have to do is install a Porn Blocker on your devices and, presto, no more access to porn.

And if you know anything about dopamine it's like nicotine, it wants more each time you give it more.

Sure, but porn is not the only thing that can provide you with dopamine. Find another way to get your dopamine.

 

[Learning Curve]

Tech is your support in this area. All you have to do is install a Porn Blocker on your devices and, presto, no more access to porn.

You will be surpised how many people do that and they still find ways to watch porn. The problem is not technical is internal and you have to solve it in your brain.

Sure, but porn is not the only thing that can provide you with dopamine. Find another way to get your dopamine.

It's not black and white. "Find another way" it's not that simple. Addictions require discipline and willingness to cut them off. Usually doing things that take over your time and not focusing on that one thing that triggers you is the best way to go.

I was able to quit smoking by playing video games 10 years ago.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I was able to quit smoking by playing video games 10 years ago.

I'm not flexing here, but I smoked from age 12 to 22. I stopped smoking by not buying tobacco anymore and not accepting cigarettes from other people. And I broke the 'emotional connection' to nicotine by calling myself a 'non-smoker' instead of an 'ex-smoker'.

It's not black and white. "Find another way" it's not that simple. Addictions require discipline and willingness to cut them off. Usually doing things that take over your time and not focusing on that one thing that triggers you is the best way to go.

Yes, I understand that addiction is not in the substance but in the mind of the addict. What you're suggesting is to replace one addiction with another, but that's not quitting, is it?
What you need to address is the underlying issue that caused the addiction, not mindlessly replacing one addiction with another.

When I still smoked, I was always busy and the 'smoke breaks' provided little pockets of rest during work. I kept taking the breaks, but didn't smoke. I had coffee, but without a cigarette. I stopped fidgeting by consciously folding my hands.

The most difficult addictions are the ones where there's no clear negative consequences, like biting nails. And you have your nails with you always and you'll bite your nails unconsciously. Sure, you can use disgusting nail polish which will alert you when you start putting your nails into your mouth. What worked for me is to carry a nail file everywhere so I could keep my nails short and smooth and I would be less tempted to bite a hangnail. But the most important part was addressing the issue that caused me to bite nails.

Masturbation is usually fine, it releases tension and gives you some dopamine. Masturbation turns toxic when you need to do it several times a day and thoughts of masturbating / sex occupy your mind 24/7.

Most people look at porn / erotica occasionally. If you're addicted to porn, you're using incessant masturbation to avoid addressing the underlying issue, whether it's boredom or unsatisfying sex or lack of sex or nervous tension relief.

If you deal with the underlying issue of the addiction, it's much easier to really quit the addiction.

Using tech to block your access to porn is just the starting point.

 

[TheProspect]

Actually, as addictions go, porn is one of the easier ones to quit; much easier than opiates, nicotine and alcohol, since you can easily avoid watching porn.

Respectfully disagree, anecdotally at least. I was addicted to cocaine and opiates as an 18-year old....

It was much easier for me to get off opiates than quit porn because porn is free, socially acceptable, instantaneously accessible 24/7, and does not cause obvious physical problems with your appearance or behaviour when in public the way drugs do.

Additionally, porn never got in the way of me talking to girls and getting laid like it does for many guys, so I felt less incentive and motivated that I needed to quit. Quite frankly, I enjoyed the rush and stimulation of porn.

Sugar was also difficult for me to quit, because there's little shame comparatively speaking - especially when you are fit and have a 6-pack like me, people almost don't believe I was binge eating junk food almost every single day. Like porn, I really enjoyed it, ice cream and pizza for dinner everyday never got old lol.

I might be an outlier, but as far as addictions go, I felt quitting porn and sugar much more difficult than drugs.

 

[nismo-4]

Stopping watching porn is good. Stopping jacking off is good too. But the guy still has to be attractive. We can't just tell a bunch of guys that play Fortnite all day to stop these things, video games included, and they'll have the Miami Dolphins Cheerleaders begging them for sex a month later.

 

[The Duke]

I've never had the addiction but if I didn't look at porn/masturbate every few days when I don't have regular pu$$y around I would be so amped up and aggressive. Almost Like a raging bull stomping and snorting looking for a few cows to breed.

When my mind gets overloaded, over active, and is consumed with other tasks, stresses, hobbies the lack of down time suppresses my sexual desire.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

I think the biggest issue is dopamine.

Sometimes I watch it when Im bored and dont even feel the need to masturbate.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

There's some debate on whether porn is a bad thing or not and I don't care. If it causes a net negative in your life, it is bad. In my case, it is bad, so do me a favor and leave the "is porn a bad thing" debate aside.

One side of the debate is wrong. Internet porn has been proven in neurological studies to cause the same changes to the brain as seen in hardcore drug abuse.

So there's my victim puke. Now who has been hooked on porn and managed to stop? What motivated you to do it? How did you stop?

99% of men who try to quit it never succeed. It's extremely difficult unless you're willing to ditch your phone and get on dialup, at that point you can use watch old school porn from DVDs; old school porn isn't particularly harmful, or at least nowhere near the extent as modern, free, high speed internet porn that has endless novelty.

A more practical option is to setup multiple filters. You can use free public DNS like 1.1.1.1 or AdGuard as they automatically block X rated websites. You can also block specific websites using the /etc/hosts file and/or through your router config. If you stack these on top of each other it creates such a massive barrier that you will be less likely to seek porn and won't erode your limited willpower. It's been shown in studies that creating "friction" between yourself and an addictive behavior will decrease the chance of seeking it out. Of course, this is all moot if you have a smartphone on a cellular network. You could get a some kind of parental control app but that's really dumb imo, you can literally just disable/uninstall the app in 30 seconds and get back to your cooming.

 

[Money & Muscle]

One side of the debate is wrong. Internet porn has been proven in neurological studies to cause the same changes to the brain as seen in hardcore drug abuse.


99% of men who try to quit it never succeed. It's extremely difficult unless you're willing to ditch your phone and get on dialup, at that point you can use watch old school porn from DVDs; old school porn isn't particularly harmful, or at least nowhere near the extent as modern, free, high speed internet porn that has endless novelty.

A more practical option is to setup multiple filters. You can use free public DNS like 1.1.1.1 or AdGuard as they automatically block X rated websites. You can also block specific websites using the /etc/hosts file and/or through your router config. If you stack these on top of each other it creates such a massive barrier that you will be less likely to seek porn and won't erode your limited willpower. It's been shown in studies that creating "friction" between yourself and an addictive behavior will decrease the chance of seeking it out. Of course, this is all moot if you have a smartphone on a cellular network. You could get a some kind of parental control app but that's really dumb imo, you can literally just disable/uninstall the app in 30 seconds and get back to your cooming.

Awesome post, thank you.

I've installed Bulldog Blocker on my phone... it's an AI powered porn blocker. I'm 3 days porn free.

*I don't count it if my wife sends me nudes.

 

[kleathe1]

I just installed Bulldog Blocker onto my phone.

I was going to suggest installing one of the apps to help. Of course there are always work around, but sometimes that one extra step is enough to catch yourself and say hey...maybe not today. I've been doing pretty good for about 7 months now. Find someone to help with accountability if you need.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

its ****ing up my sex life with my gf. I have a real problem with this **** and its the hardest thing for me to quit. I will end it now.

 

[Money & Muscle]

I will end it now.

want to be fapless friends?

Joking, that's too much intimacy for me to share with internet folks. TBH I don't even really care about masturbation - I don't find this that harmful, but the use of porn I find to be harmful and desensitizing me to the female body (and many other beneficial dopamine sources).

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Joking, that's too much intimacy for me to share with internet folks.

Now you hurt their feelings.

 

[anonymous12345]

In my no PM quest quitting porn was comparatively easy.

However, in fact, today I watched some, just to not forget what I'm missing out on in real life.

While I restrained myself from arousal and M, it did give me anxiety, pain and sorrow, due to seeing what I'm missing out in real life.

 

[anonymous12345]

Now I'm getting laid 3x a week on a slow week and it's usually more like 5+... but I still want to watch porn.

I'm ADHD

That's the spirit. I was almost gullied into the idea that being dysfunctional/having the color brown (as in T-shirt) is bad for game. Drink, smoke, be ill, be a psychopath/narcissist/etc. Not some "perfect" bs.