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If you don't have good attention from babes ( it means they view you sexually and lay with you ) excess viewing of babes who aren't into you will "steal" drive energy and focus. The preferential position is they are looking at you. Into you. Stay on purpose.
You do realize once you put a high energy and prority on your business that women will want to try to come to be the object of your affection? To steal and bask in your attention?
 

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I cringed at the use of "make love." Nobody says that lol.

But in all seriousness, the point he is trying to make is at least arguable. He's essentially preaching an extreme form of "nofap" for your eyes. If you aren't getting any, don't use her as free porn.

Realistically, if there are attractive women around, you will always notice, even if it just via your peripheral vision. But not gawking at them (or even attempting to check them out) unless you plan to approach doesn't sound like a bad idea. Even the PUAs warned about looking at a chick too many times (or too long) before approaching because it can creep her out.

Maybe this could turn into some hardcore "ignoring-whoring" or "ignore game" if done before you approach.

I think there may be some potential here.
Can "giving attention" eventually "cost" you? Can it cause you to become distracted? Can it cause you to decrease your focus on what you where doing?
 

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I try not to look at women wearing things women do to try and get male attention. If I do look I make darn sure they don’t see me doing it. That is because, well, my attention will inflate her big fat ego. Even if I’m not the one piping her tonight why inflate her ego more for the dude that is? Plenty of salivating simps doing it already.
I agree with you. I feel the same way when there is a woman that I find attractive that I see over time (e.g. work function, gym, social function) and I know they are in committed relationships and act like I don't exist. I, in turn, act like they don't exist since I'm like "You ain't getting no ego boost from me, when I'm getting zero from you in return"
 

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Jesus said it is the same as adultery of heart to look lustfully at a woman.
I'm as guilty of sin as the next guy, but again I'm not talking about leering at some chick, but I'll have a glance.
Are you guys seriously trying to tell me you never notice or look at women when you're out?

It's interesting how this place has evolved over time. Originally it was ABC - Always Be Approaching, do a bootcamp and approach 100 times, three second rule - approach before you have a chance to think about it. Then it was only approach women who give you IOIs. Then it was let them seduce you. Now it's don't talk to them, don't even look at them. It's like Spinal Tap, don't play the guitar, don't touch the guitar, don't even look at the guitar.

I have watched dozens of his videos and have never seen him try and sell anything.
Even on the video I posted there's a crawl saying he gives private consults, which if you look at his Patreon page, cost $100 an hour.
 

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I'm as guilty of sin as the next guy, but again I'm not talking about leering at some chick, but I'll have a glance.
Are you guys seriously trying to tell me you never notice or look at women when you're out?

It's interesting how this place has evolved over time. Originally it was ABC - Always Be Approaching, do a bootcamp and approach 100 times, three second rule - approach before you have a chance to think about it. Then it was only approach women who give you IOIs. Then it was let them seduce you. Now it's don't talk to them, don't even look at them. It's like Spinal Tap, don't play the guitar, don't touch the guitar, don't even look at the guitar.


Even on the video I posted there's a crawl saying he gives private consults, which if you look at his Patreon page, cost $100 an hour.
Low T. High estrogen. Deezedbrah posted about a book I haven't looked up yet. "Estrogeneration"

Thought of posting this because you watched the decline in testosterone here as you described above.
 

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I'm as guilty of sin as the next guy, but again I'm not talking about leering at some chick, but I'll have a glance.
Are you guys seriously trying to tell me you never notice or look at women when you're out?

It's interesting how this place has evolved over time. Originally it was ABC - Always Be Approaching, do a bootcamp and approach 100 times, three second rule - approach before you have a chance to think about it. Then it was only approach women who give you IOIs. Then it was let them seduce you. Now it's don't talk to them, don't even look at them. It's like Spinal Tap, don't play the guitar, don't touch the guitar, don't even look at the guitar.


Even on the video I posted there's a crawl saying he gives private consults, which if you look at his Patreon page, cost $100 an hour.
Yeah, it's kinda crazy how the site got watered down over time. I'm glad I got here in time so that I could learn the actual truth lol. I'll always have mad love for this place though.
 

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Low T. High estrogen. Deezedbrah posted about a book I haven't looked up yet. "Estrogeneration"

Thought of posting this because you watched the decline in testosterone here as you described above.
Hit the nail on the head... Decline in T
 

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I watched this video the other day, this guy says that you should not look at women when you're out. His rationale is that when you see an attractive woman in her short shorts or whatever, you get a dopamine hit because it pleases you. But then this dopamine hit is followed by a depressing feeling of disappointment, because she is just a stranger and you're not going to be banging her. This supposedly trains the mind that "What you want, you can't have". He also compares this phenomenon with porn. I thought I would throw this idea out there to see what people thought of it. I suppose there's a glimmer of truth in there, but personally it sounds like nonsense to me. I enjoy seeing attractive women when I am out and about, why should I not look at what I enjoy? Should I not look at the trees on a beautiful day just because I'm not going to be banging them? Besides, if you never looked at a girl, you would never meet a girl, you would never talk to a girl, etc. etc. This also seems to contradict the idea of a confident male making eye contact with everyone he sees. This video is by Alexander Grace, for some reason he keeps popping up on my YouTube reccommendations. You don't have to watch it, but I'll include it if you're curious.
There is a difference between enjoy looking and between a starving dog

This thing needs to be mutual
 

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When I've just had sex I look at hot women, average women, fat women, post wall women; I really don't care anymore at that point.

When I haven't had sex I avoid staring at women or giving them a second glance. I still notice them but I keep my eyes off them. In my mind I'm thinking "I'm not having sex with her so I gain nothing by looking".

I've just completed a week of No porn No fap. I did watch some porn briefly this morning but managed to snap out of it.

It's getting tricky.
 

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There is a difference between enjoy looking and between a starving dog

This thing needs to be mutual
I'm thinking more in terms of just enjoying the moment and then moving on, as opposed to any sort of mutual interaction. I can enjoy that moment without expecting anything more out of it. I'm certainly not talking about seeing a woman and then pining after her the rest ofthe day or whatever.
 

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I'm as guilty of sin as the next guy, but again I'm not talking about leering at some chick, but I'll have a glance.
Are you guys seriously trying to tell me you never notice or look at women when you're out?
If you feel that it is wrong enough to make a thread about it then I am only relaying the truth about it. I just dont see the relevance of the issue beyond God and your feeling its wrong and you are cheating on your gf by doing this. I think when you are with someone you are more liable to look at other woman because they seem less abstract.

Zekko said:
It's interesting how this place has evolved over time. Originally it was ABC - Always Be Approaching, do a bootcamp and approach 100 times, three second rule - approach before you have a chance to think about it. Then it was only approach women who give you IOIs. Then it was let them seduce you. Now it's don't talk to them, don't even look at them. It's like Spinal Tap, don't play the guitar, don't touch the guitar, don't even look at the guitar.
I remember all that. The PUA culture has changed since 00s. Its a minefield today. But if that is modern redpill then it sounds more indistinguishable to the blackpill which also says the same thing.
 
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If you can't look at women, you might as well gouge your eyes out.

It's in our nature to rape women with our eyes all the time. (no offense meant by the word, just trying to convey heavy meaning here).
 

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If you can't look at women, you might as well gouge your eyes out.

It's in our nature to rape women with our eyes all the time. (no offense meant by the word, just trying to convey heavy meaning here).
that sounds creepy dude are you ok
 

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If you can't look at women, you might as well gouge your eyes out.

It's in our nature to rape women with our eyes all the time. (no offense meant by the word, just trying to convey heavy meaning here).
Should you be gawking at them giving them all your attention when you got nothing good going on for yourself in life?
 

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I'll check out women when they aren't looking but I won't give them validation when they look at me to see if I'm validating their attractiveness. This is something I picked up instinctively from social circles with hot women. I'll walk into the room and feel a bunch of women looking at me fishing for attention and I would instinctively turn away from every direction.

5 minutes later the same chick trying to get my attention would hover around me and start a conversation. Talk to her long enough and she invites me to do some alone activity with her. This always works.

I'm the anti-validation guy. I'm as cold as ice. Women don't get anything from me unless they attempt to seduce me. Otherwise, I got a purpose, plan, and focus to get things done.

One time I THOUGHT a woman was making sexual eye contact. But all she did was flipped her hair 10 feet away. I showed her a look of disappointment like "I'm never gonna talk to this time wasting attention wh0re ever again. Not when I have options."

Somehow she was able to feel my negative energy and disapproval and walked up to me and started putting her hand on my shoulders. she KNEW just from my vibe, presence, and sub-communications that I didn't like time wasters and validation seeking wh0res so she tried to prove she wasn't one.

Women are damn near psychic. They can read your vibe.

This is really how subtle the game is. It plays out on the level of sub-communications. You can't hide your thirst. You can't hide anything. So better have a standard of behavior for women and approve and dismiss accordingly to your standards.
Women can dress down a "highly purposed" man full of momentum, if he allows them to string him along. They do the string along for "attention", it makes them feel more "powerful" at the mans expense.
 

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Should you be gawking at them giving them all your attention when you got nothing good going on for yourself in life?
Absolutely not. Stormrider may be cold and that's his style but there should always be some sense of subtlety with looking. As he mentioned, women know and have a kind of psychic ability to tell if you are slobbering all over them when you look at them or not.
Personally, I only look out my peripherial vision and not make things obvious. My rule is only look at them directly and hold eye contact if you are planning to approach them. Otherwise I don't really see a point in validating them. There maybe times when you can also tell if they are submissive with eye contact too but that is more of a game if you don't do anything with it. My $.02
 

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This seems like a bit of a defeatist attitude. Why assume that you can't have them and that they'll never be interested in you? If you're scared to even look at women, how are you going to notice women that you're interested in and that you want to approach? It's natural to look at women that you find attractive and I don't think any man should be ashamed of that. Is James Bond going around looking at the floor to avoid temptation?
 

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I cringed at the use of "make love." Nobody says that lol.

But in all seriousness, the point he is trying to make is at least arguable. He's essentially preaching an extreme form of "nofap" for your eyes. If you aren't getting any, don't use her as free porn.

Realistically, if there are attractive women around, you will always notice, even if it just via your peripheral vision. But not gawking at them (or even attempting to check them out) unless you plan to approach doesn't sound like a bad idea. Even the PUAs warned about looking at a chick too many times (or too long) before approaching because it can creep her out.

Maybe this could turn into some hardcore "ignoring-whoring" or "ignore game" if done before you approach.

I think there may be some potential here.
You been around long enough to realize and know that they will look at YOU? Why not just view people who are receptive to you, let her look first, otherwise mind your business.
 

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I watched this video the other day, this guy says that you should not look at women when you're out. His rationale is that when you see an attractive woman in her short shorts or whatever, you get a dopamine hit because it pleases you. But then this dopamine hit is followed by a depressing feeling of disappointment, because she is just a stranger and you're not going to be banging her. This supposedly trains the mind that "What you want, you can't have". He also compares this phenomenon with porn.

I thought I would throw this idea out there to see what people thought of it. I suppose there's a glimmer of truth in there, but personally it sounds like nonsense to me. I enjoy seeing attractive women when I am out and about, why should I not look at what I enjoy? Should I not look at the trees on a beautiful day just because I'm not going to be banging them? Besides, if you never looked at a girl, you would never meet a girl, you would never talk to a girl, etc. etc. This also seems to contradict the idea of a confident male making eye contact with everyone he sees.

This video is by Alexander Grace, for some reason he keeps popping up on my YouTube reccommendations. You don't have to watch it, but I'll include it if you're curious.

I like Alexander Grace. His theories are always backed by scientific or empirical evidence. I watched the video you linked when he released it. And I totally agree with him. Why? Because it makes sense. He's talking about that quick eye snack, when you look at a barely dressed woman to get that little tingly feeling in your balls. Furthermore it's about not engaging on the sight you're seeing. Why look if you don't want to make a move? You see where I'm going?

Dopamine crashes are a real thing. If you go on Instagram or TikTok to "relax" and get that quick dopamine fix and do so on a regular basis, you will one day need more than you did before. This is a downward spiral - and an exponential one at that.
 
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