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Squat VS Deadlift

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To me, it feels like the exact same movement. Is one susposed to work different muscels than the other? Are there any advantages or disadvantages for one of the other?
 

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...If you feel that dead and squat is the same your doing IT WRONG. Deadlift mainly work your back, lowerback and arms. Squat works your legs and ass! So do them both and add BB or DB Press in there too! If you read the stickies Squat, Dead, and BB/ DB Press should be the core of every workout.
 

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PeterNorthisawesome said:
...If you feel that dead and squat is the same your doing IT WRONG. Deadlift mainly work your back, lowerback and arms. Squat works your legs and ass!

Not necessarily. For the average guy who's not lifting for a lot of time, those 2 exercises work the back and the legs in a very similar way, since they are both underdeveloped and put under stress during the movements.
 

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are they talking about stiff-leg deadlifts or normal deadlifts in the stickies?

Look,
http://www.bullz-eye.com/furci/2004/exercise_of_month/deadlift.htm
the form, to me, is almost exactly the same as a squat:
-back straight or arched (never curved)
-knee's shouldn't go past the toes
-bring your butt back
-head looking forward
-shoulders go up same time as hips

Looks like the same movement to me.
 

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Adone said:
Not necessarily. For the average guy who's not lifting for a lot of time, those 2 exercises work the back and the legs in a very similar way, since they are both underdeveloped and put under stress during the movements.
QFT, couldn't have said it better
 

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Squat, you're pushing the weight up.

Deadlift, you're pulling the weight off the ground.

Sure, they look similar, but when i deadlift, i feel it more in my hamstrings and lower back. When I squat, I feel it more in my quads.
 

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I tried the tip in that article I posted earlier. It worked but not as well as the article mentioned. Good enough that I will be using the technique from now on.
 

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Skilla_Staz said:
Squat, you're pushing the weight up.

Deadlift, you're pulling the weight off the ground.

Sure, they look similar, but when i deadlift, i feel it more in my hamstrings and lower back. When I squat, I feel it more in my quads.
Again, that is up to each one's physical conformation. I, for example, feel the squats more on the glutes than the quads. Also, when I squat I get an intense workout of the back too, almost as intense as the deadlifts.

Obviously when you deadlift your shoulders and back get worked out more, because you have to pull up the weight rather than letting it rest on your traps. But, as I said in my previous post, when you are weak overall, those exercises will require a great amount of work by all muscles, so the differences are minimal.
 

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That's like saying "duck vs wooden stick".

Pointless, no logical basis, and will lead to nowhere.
 

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You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

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Mrs, what are you talking about. This thread is about him feeling that it is more or less the same movement, asking what the difference is, and why it feels the same to him.

I think you might not have actually read the question, but instead read the title and responded.
 

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I have not been doing alotta deadlifts and squats in the past,
Would you guys reccomend I do both per workout, or alternate between deadlifts and squats between leg workouts.
And what about when I do develope my legs enough so that I see a difference.
 

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3 Day split.

Monday - Squats

Wednesday Bench

Friday Deadlifts

then build workouts with a few compound movements that also target that body region.

Squats - Legs
Bench - Chest/Arms/Shoulder
Deadlift - Upper/Lowe Back/Core
 

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protienpowder said:
I have not been doing alotta deadlifts and squats in the past,
Would you guys reccomend I do both per workout, or alternate between deadlifts and squats between leg workouts.
And what about when I do develope my legs enough so that I see a difference.

Man, listen to me: don't make my same mistakes. When you are an average built guy, all you have to do is lifting and eating tons (and resting, of course).

Don't be afraid of overtraining yet because, provided that you eat A LOT, it will be almost impossible to overtrain when you can't even bench press your bodyweight.

Just don't train body parts that you feel are still tired from previous workouts.
 

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protienpowder said:
To me, it feels like the exact same movement. Is one susposed to work different muscels than the other? Are there any advantages or disadvantages for one of the other?
It depends on your technique in both lifts. You can do squats leaning forward (good morning squats) which incorporate the lower back alot more than doing regular squats. With regular squats you push with your legs, with squats leaning forward you push alot more with the core (english?).

Deadlifts can feel like squats if you have your hip too low to the ground. This way you are forced to use only leg strength to get the weight up. Thus squatting the weight.

In the sticky they talk about regular deadlifts. Stiff deads (if done right) will hit your hamstrings HARD!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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