"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Speer's Edge: Begining 12 Do's & Dont's

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1. Don't be too obsessive. If the girl doesn't call, they might have been too busy to answer. Leaving 5 voice mails just makes you appear desperate.

2. Don't move too quickly. It could cause a pipi le pew situation (you persue and the other runs away as fast as they can).

3. Don't talk too much about your ex's. And if you do, don't say anything disparaging. Treat it as a new relationship so empty your luggage at the door.

4. Be courteous. Please and thank you go a long way.

5. Be flexible. If you have to cancel, reschedule unless you really didn't want to go out with the girl to begin with.

6. Guys, I hate to say it, but bring cash and/or plastic to the date. If the woman wants to go dutch great, but expect to pay on the first date atleast.

7. Do open her doors. Hold out your hand if you have a really big car/truck and if she has a skirt and heels, etc. Little things go a long way.

8. Do compliment the other person and show interest.

9. Do listen to your date. Shut up about yourself for a few minutes to hear what they have to say. (I have to remind myself of this one personally).

10. Don't drink too much. Impaired judgment always follows.

11. Don't look too hard for faults in the other person. You'll always find something to sabotage the next relationship. You've been hurt before so you don't want to set yourself up to have it happen again.

12. Don't make plans too quickly (i.e. don't start naming your future kids on the second date).
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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A thread on date etiquette? I think a lot of this stuff is common sense.

I was expecting a bit more from the title. Something about increasing or solidifying attraction.
 

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It's alsways good to be reminded now and then, and common sense is actually very uncommon, don't you think?
 

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How does all this politeness square with the "women want jerks" concept?
Or could it be that women really don't want jerks?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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woman don't want jerks damnit, they want people that have the confidence and take no sh1t attitude jerks have. Theres a huge difference. Of course there is the odd exception though.
 

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search1ng said:
woman don't want jerks damnit, they want people that have the confidence and take no sh1t attitude jerks have. Theres a huge difference. Of course there is the odd exception though.
Very true search1ng,

Women normally want a guy that can stay in his frame and have the confidence to be themselves. Most guys think being themselves without confirming to the girl is being a jerk or assh0le but its not.

Being a gentleman and having manors goes along way. This idea of being a jerk on purpose will get you laid is false. Not only will it ruin possible long lasting relationships but it will also make you incongruent if that is not your typical behavior.

Be yourself and keep this common and simple guidelines for continued success. Also always remember the biggest influence in our life is the mass media. So you can see what our society expects.

Peace out,
 

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search1ng said:
woman don't want jerks damnit, they want people that have the confidence and take no sh1t attitude jerks have. Theres a huge difference. Of course there is the odd exception though.
women want jerks because they are jerks, look at what they did

get creeped out when I say hello
want only the hot guy
don't show up for dates freequently
stop responding to mesages and disappear
lie lie lie lie lie lie esecially about having a boyfriend
have her boyfriend beat me up, it happened to me
avoid virgins
play games and jerk you around
 

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18. Don't! If you plan on busting in her mouth, remember; Protein supplements can make your goo taste bad for her. Edit: Alcohol too.
lol screw that, thats the best part of a bj
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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