"The only one listed here that is has to be supplemented by a vegan is B12."
EyeBRollin, had I remembered how emotional and triggered you got when I made a similar post last year I probably would have skipped it as to not have to read through your pretentiously false rebuttals and twisting of my words. I'm not going to change your mind and you won't change mine. I'm sure you're well read as am I, and we both have practical experience that reinforces our beliefs. I'll give a brief response to your picking apart of my post and am happy to give you the last word. With the last word you should have the feeling of taking the "W" as I want you to sleep well.
Which vegetable can I find creatine in? As far as iron goes, Heme Iron found in meat is much different than the iron found in plants. Plant iron is poorly absorbed as it is inhibited by polyphenols, tannins and other plant toxins. In fact the lectins, oxalates, phytates, phytoestrogens (causing soy boys with moobs), and tannins have antinutrient qualities that restrict absorption calcium and iodine present in plants. This can cause all kinds of other issues from hormonal issues, guts issues, kidney stones yada yada yada.
"That is a myth. Legumes are a more concentrated source of protein and iron then red meat."
Ahh legumes. The food that makes one very ill or kills you if eaten raw. Calling this a myth is probably your most egregious statement. Please fact check me. 100 grams of cooked beef has 31.3 grams of protein. 100 grams of cooked beans has 8.9 grams of incomplete poorly absorbed protein. As far as iron goes, see above reference to Heme iron vs plant iron. Calorie wise I can eat 3 oz of steak for 180 calories and 25 grams of protein or I can eat a cup and a half of beans to get those 25 grams of incomplete protein for 374 calories.
"Carnivores also have different stomachs than omnivores and herbivores. It just so happens that human anatomy (along with most omnivores) leans closer to herbivore than it does to carnivore."
Not sure what your point is here. I'll agree with you here unless you're insinuating I need to be more like a herbivore. How about we just be omnivores.
"Probably shouldn’t bring God into it… The Bible is very clearly slanted towards vegetarian. It’s in the first book!
Genesis 1:29"
I never mentioned the Bible or Christianity. I stated "Nature/ God." Meaning whatever intelligently designed us and other species to thrive and survive in certain environments by giving us certain attributes.
"Our plant provisioning was granted first, long before we were permitted to eat meat."
I think my post acknowledges just that. Are you arguing just to be arguing. I was articulating that there is evidence that when what would eventually become humans, started hunting and eating meat is the same period when their brains and intellect grew as evidenced by skull size and also mobility, weapon systems, architecture yada yada.
"Just because junk shvt is “vegan,” doesn’t mean it’s advocated. That’s why a plant-based diet is usually referred to whole food-plant based (WFPB)."
I didn't say it was advocated. It was said mostly tongue and cheek but still stands true. Vegan had to change the name to WFPB because the word vegan started getting a bad rap much like environmentalist had to change global warming to climate change because the name couldn't support the facts.
Well that's enough keyboard warrioring to last me for the month. I will spend the rest of my weekend eating meat, throwing one of the gf's a bone, and counting stacks of $.
