"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Plenty of women, I'd say and the consensus on SS is more women than men lack a moral compass, but women don't commit crimes per se, they don't need to. There could be several factors for men commiting more crimes but the top would be frustration and desperation.To be honest, I'm really sick of you labeling guys "bitter" on here. There's more bitter and mean women around than men. And they're bitter for no reason but their own fault. Many of them make as much or more money as men and have their pick of guys. They just pick the wrong ones maybe.iqqi said:
I definitley know of lots of nice guys that approach and approach and it does them little good. There seems to be a negative correlation for being nice and intelligent and attracting women.
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KontrollerX said:
Exactly how I feel about this site.
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That is utter bullsh!t, and just an excuse for you to not blame yourself for picking women without morals.ketostix said:
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Its just flat out stupid to think someone is without morals just because of their gender. Half the assumptions I see thrown out here are plain dumb, and really just excuses for men not to seek better. Then again you have the retards who would seem to settle for any relationship, period, like the desperate sounding bunch over in the "does every pretty girl have a boyfriend." thread. I believe it was said that the only criteria to get into a relationship was 1. not be ugly 2. some other dumb crap.Mad Manic said:
No wonder some of you have such a low opinion of women. Look at your standards! Some of you have none! And those of you that do... well you obviously aren't factoring in morals.
Did your mom have a moral compass?
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
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Don't you know that was done through God's intentions? :crackup:iqqi said:
In all seriousness, I sometimes feel sorry for women knowing they're going to have to settle down and marry some of these AFC-type guys out there. If you've read any of my posts in the past, you probably have heard me complain about a handful of my friends who are huge AFCs and refuse to do anything to try to better themselves or listen to my advice in any way. Instead, they wallow and mope in their own self-pity and depression. Eventually, my buddies are all going to get in their late 20s/early 30s and some chics looking for husbands are going to settle for them. I feel bad for my friends and for those women that they will eventually marry, because they are headed for a difficult and possibly miserable future with each other. Though, the kids they have together will probably suffer most. Their sons won't have fathers who will teach them how to be men, and the wife will wear the pants in their families. Those will be some fvcked up households that will undoubtedly produce some fvcked up kids.
We give women a lot of grief on here, but sometimes I think we need to be a lot tougher on these guys who refuse to better themselves and evolve beyond their ways. If AFCs didn't exist, the "matrix" or whatever it is called wouldn't exist either.
Young girl then kills herself. Don't know if that woman is doing any time, but it was a lot worse, and in general I think that women do worse things than men.
ElChoclo said:
Yes and this was one of the saddest stories I ever heard. Last I heard there will be no charges against the woman, big surprise. Law enforcements says, there's no laws to prosecute her with.." But in most states in the US now if a man as young as 18 so much as says sexual words to a girl under the age of 16 on the internet( actually not even a real teen girl but a cop posing as one), he can serve up to 2 years in prison and be labeled a sexual predatory
Talk about having screwed up priorities..
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Yeah well I still totally disagree with iqqi. Whether a guy has quality standards or not says nothing about how many quality women there are or how moral women are. The fact is regardless of what they say most men are happy as long as their getting sex with a nonugly girl.jonwon said:This is why i love some of your posts
Nice.