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The problem with American society is that we are removing foundational pillars without replacing them. I've visited both religiously dominated and atheist countries, and the common factor I noticed was the presence of a social contract in their societies. In the USA, when religion and other traditional institutions are stripped away, they are being replaced with debauchery, individualism, and hypocrisy. While a world where marriage as an institution isn't valid can exist, a social contract is still necessary to maintain order and prevent chaos.
The problem with marriage is that it is such a woefully outdated concept that it continues to exist solely due to inertia. Marriage is essentially a product of medieval contract law. It was originally a contract between the groom and the bride's father (the bride had no say in the matter). The groom would agree to accept legal and financial responsibility for the bride and in return would get a dowry from her family. In that context, it totally made sense that upon divorce, the wife would get a share of the husband's assets, as her father would have contributed to the family's "start up capital". Not to mention, divorces were extremely rare and were only granted in exceptional circumstances. You literally had to petition the Pope to get a divorce.

Today, in the age of on demand, no fault divorces, marriage has essentially become a farce. Can you imagine any other contract where the defaulting party can seek condensation from the innocent party? It makes no logical sense whatsoever.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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For the last 30+ years I have seen society decline in many ways. It first started with the quality of products and food we consume. Eventually that style of thinking bled into how individuals treated others. Now the market is flooded with cheap, get your fix quick products and people that aren't made to stand the test of time. We live in a throw-a-way society. We don't fix things, we don't work to improve them, we throw them away and get another one and it doesn't matter if its consumer goods or people.

There was a time when divorce was frowned upon, not anymore.

There was a time when women having multiple sexual partners was frowned upon, not anymore.

There was a time when virginity was honorable, not anymore.

There was a time when you knew your neighbors well, sat on the front porch together, talked in the yard, and took homemade food to them, not anymore.

There was a time families sat around the dinner table every night and talked about each others day, not anymore.

There was a time when a 16yo girl got pregnant, she was removed from school and sent somewhere else, not anymore.

There was a time you could leave a shotgun/rifle in the back window of your truck in your highschool parking lot and no one was ever going to steal it, or kill somebody with it.

There was a time we didn't have mass shootings.

There was a time we weren't so divided as a society.

There was a time we were more accepting of differences.

The more we have moved away from religion, the less restraint individuals seem to have. I don't know if religion is the answer, but one can't ignore the fact that when people followed religion more closely, the United States was a better place. Afterall, its what this country was founded on and helped it become so prosperous. We had a unfied group working towards a common goal.

They do say that more men are attending church than in years before. For the first time in history, men are more religious than women. If you want that traditional wife, you need to be a traditional man and the church is a good place to start. I think men need a sense of belonging and you can get that in church. I wouldn't be surprised if women follow the men back to church. I don't think they are happy either.
Great post man,

People think logic is more powerful than religion. If it were that easy, Christianity would have never survived and we would have been philosophic nations based purely on aristotle, socrates, etc. Humans have a need that philosophy cannot solve on its own. We need something that transcends all of it.

Bible says "there's nothing new under the sun". Man has strayed in similar ways in the past couple thousand years only to come back to religion. There's a reason it's there. It's a refuge from our delusional sense of "reason and logic".

That's not to say that religion can't get out of hand sometimes but alas, much of our moral and ethical structure comes from religion, not so much pure logic. The logicians pretend that they could come up with a better system using pure logic but really all they are doing is backwards-rationalizing ideas that they got from religion and taking the credit for it.

Helpoing your neighbor, equality before god, etc are not logical ideas. Pre-christianity, that's not how civilizations thought.

The point is that if men are going to take this thing back, we have to start with what got us here in the first place instead of being arrogant and thinking we're gonna start from a blank slate.
 

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The problem with marriage is that it is such a woefully outdated concept that it continues to exist solely due to inertia. Marriage is essentially a product of medieval contract law. It was originally a contract between the groom and the bride's father (the bride had no say in the matter). The groom would agree to accept legal and financial responsibility for the bride and in return would get a dowry from her family. In that context, it totally made sense that upon divorce, the wife would get a share of the husband's assets, as her father would have contributed to the family's "start up capital". Not to mention, divorces were extremely rare and were only granted in exceptional circumstances. You literally had to petition the Pope to get a divorce.

Today, in the age of on demand, no fault divorces, marriage has essentially become a farce. Can you imagine any other contract where the defaulting party can seek condensation from the innocent party? It makes no logical sense whatsoever.
I agree with you that marriage and divorce has become big business unfortunately.

However, the notion of monogamy, social and legal accountability through contract has survived for thousands of years for a reason: because it works. There might be some quirks and adjustments to make but to throw it out completely would weaken our society to the point of total collapse.

Families and strong communities outmaneuver lone wolves and loosely tied non-commital people everyday of the week. Look at the jews, the Sicilians and other clannish types. They tend to outmaneuver the communities around them for better or worse.
 

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Originally, this was a comment on someone's thread but I decided to turn it into a post:

It's very interesting to hear about Italy. I heard something similar from a guy who is in his 50s who used to be a playboy. He said Italian women are hyper feminists now. They don't like men anymore just like it is in the US.

I recently went out to a party here in the US and I heard a woman say something very common out here: "the dating game is fvcked up and women are masculine BUT it's because of men. Men are not masculine anymore so women have to become men."

They blame us for it. Women will not stick up for us. We have to take our power back and put them in their place.

Unfortunately, we can't have both worlds.

If men are going to take society back, that means we can't have the game and picking up girls and all this promiscuity. Game was never created for every man. It can be argued that game was traditionally something you did within a relationship and maybe 5-10% of men did who were rich, aristocrats, etc. But the idea that every man can experience "abundance" and be banging loads of women is trash and it's contributing to the decay of our society.

In order to make most women "marriageable and feminine" again, we can't turn them into slvts and we have to restart the patriarchy: strong fathers, submissive wives, daughters who are protected until marriage, etc. That's the only way. Otherwise women will self-sabotage and create a philosophy meant to justify it. Same with men. Men need to be aware that they are not helping the sexual market by taking advantage of their power too much.

Every time I take a woman out knowing I'm going to b*ng her and leave, there is a slight element of guilt even though I do it with the most noble intentions and I'm very respectful. I wonder if we would have been better off just spending time together, even romantically but not banging. Hell, even oral s*x but to penetrate is extremely intimate. A sacred thing. I dont know anymore...

That's my theory anyway.
Originally, this was a comment on someone's thread but I decided to turn it into a post:

It's very interesting to hear about Italy. I heard something similar from a guy who is in his 50s who used to be a playboy. He said Italian women are hyper feminists now. They don't like men anymore just like it is in the US.

I recently went out to a party here in the US and I heard a woman say something very common out here: "the dating game is fvcked up and women are masculine BUT it's because of men. Men are not masculine anymore so women have to become men."

They blame us for it. Women will not stick up for us. We have to take our power back and put them in their place.

Unfortunately, we can't have both worlds.

If men are going to take society back, that means we can't have the game and picking up girls and all this promiscuity. Game was never created for every man. It can be argued that game was traditionally something you did within a relationship and maybe 5-10% of men did who were rich, aristocrats, etc. But the idea that every man can experience "abundance" and be banging loads of women is trash and it's contributing to the decay of our society.

In order to make most women "marriageable and feminine" again, we can't turn them into slvts and we have to restart the patriarchy: strong fathers, submissive wives, daughters who are protected until marriage, etc. That's the only way. Otherwise women will self-sabotage and create a philosophy meant to justify it. Same with men. Men need to be aware that they are not helping the sexual market by taking advantage of their power too much.

Every time I take a woman out knowing I'm going to b*ng her and leave, there is a slight element of guilt even though I do it with the most noble intentions and I'm very respectful. I wonder if we would have been better off just spending time together, even romantically but not banging. Hell, even oral s*x but to penetrate is extremely intimate. A sacred thing. I dont know anymore...

That's my theory anyway.
Pretty good post. To think any of this is new would be a mistake. It’s been heavily growing since Karl Marx talked on this very thing in some of his other writings.
The idea of this country was for all beliefs to co-exist without government influence. Beliefs and mind sets and philosophy injected into to society as law and doctrine has caused quite the debacle.

Telling us what to believe about government social anomalies and movements is a crime against the minds of men. Enforcing these social movements created by years and years of propaganda and indoctrination is coming to a head.

I will believe whatever I want to believe without outside influences. I am myself. To put a law or enforcement in front of me to control my thoughts, ideas and beliefs in an effort to force viewpoints onto and into me will be rejected vehemently.

the OP has written on a massive created paradigm that has Bennett ongoing since the early to mid 1800s. The are ancient instances but not important here.
Nothing is new here. Division of the genders was the actual point. Destruction. This is a vast subject. Too big for here.
 

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However, the notion of monogamy, social and legal accountability through contract has survived for thousands of years for a reason: because it works. There might be some quirks and adjustments to make but to throw it out completely would weaken our society to the point of total collapse.
We have to distinguish monogamy from contract marriage. The two are not necessarily the same thing. Contract marriage has been on its way out since 1969, when the first no-fault divorce bill in the nation was signed into law by Ronald Reagan, then governor of California (it's quite ironic that someone who's widely regarded as a conservative icon played a big part in destroying traditional marriage).
 

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The problem with marriage is that it is such a woefully outdated concept that it continues to exist solely due to inertia. Marriage is essentially a product of medieval contract law. It was originally a contract between the groom and the bride's father (the bride had no say in the matter). The groom would agree to accept legal and financial responsibility for the bride and in return would get a dowry from her family. In that context, it totally made sense that upon divorce, the wife would get a share of the husband's assets, as her father would have contributed to the family's "start up capital". Not to mention, divorces were extremely rare and were only granted in exceptional circumstances. You literally had to petition the Pope to get a divorce.

Today, in the age of on demand, no fault divorces, marriage has essentially become a farce. Can you imagine any other contract where the defaulting party can seek condensation from the innocent party? It makes no logical sense whatsoever.
Marriage is a concept that is bulletproofed by thousands of years of human history.

New way of life & temporary bonding (mostly single life & multiple sexual partners or loose relationships) was not common before (only in some primitive societies) and sleeping around was permitted mostly for high-profile men in positions of power (and even then it was usually treated as secret by them). Even in Greco-Roman world, sexual freedom was perceived as something temporary while family came always first (together with all the responsibilities), there was "fun period" but ultimately everyone knew that serious duties & marriage will happen.

It is easy to look at marriage while being jaded or single & childless & not married before as something without sense, however marriage was conceived mostly as a "stable cell" for raising children and building society on solid foundations (as married men were less of "loose cannons", they were also more obedient when it came to observing rules of power and they were more eager to gave their own lives in defending their families, children, land given by king, prince or warlord if man was supposed to be a soldier in time of war). For me it is clear that non-married guys and childless guys will never fully comprehend how having a family change your way of thinking - suddenly you want to work more, don't want to lose time on futile hobbies or relationships anymore, you think how to protect your family from various threats if you need to, you are less interested in making aggressive manouvers at work that are not well-thought but simultaneously you plan for the future more and strategize more about important choices. Sex becomes less important as marriage provides you with it often enough to stop thinking about it all the time and it becomes natural that you think about other matters, which are more important. Some of my old friends (peaceful guys) trained themselves to use guns and acquired gun permits while declared themselves as pacifists years before they had little children.

Having family puts you into next step of your own evolution - which is incredibly funny as nowadays society tells you that "you don't need to have family, self-development is just as much important" - yeah, well, tbh I do not see too much self-development when I look at single acquaintances of mine or my wife - it's just another boyfriend/girlfriend, another cool trip abroad sort of story or money invested into some real estate (which is pretty much what everyone does to some extent in Central Europe where I live). Being mature is also about understanding that your life and yourself are not constant - you change and having stable family helps you mature and understand other aspects of life better (especially human bonds as suddenly you need to protect them more - it is not only your choice but also your duty when you have children - it changes your perspective a lot, trust me - I still remember how I thought 10 years ago when I just wanted to sleep with many women, preferably with no ties attached and rolled my eyes when I heard that one or another of my friends got married.

Sure some guys hate additional duties, little children cry or nagging of wife (which needs to care much more about baby than about herself - not to mention husband) more than to see value in that higher purpose that is achieved by staying with the same women and raising children but I have already written on the forums that life is not about pick up per se - meeting various women is awesome stage of man's life when you are usually young and everything feels so unique and fresh, there's new experience around every corner, that's how you feel and that's ok, that's how it should be - after some time your own mind usually blunts this need for novelty - that's the call of nature and sign of passing time, getting older - suddenly stability does not sound that bad - it is important to choose the right partner before trying to trick the nature in her own game will end with nature tricking you and idea of marriage supports that need to have family, which most of the people still have.

I generally do not believe that modern tendencies in social bonds will stand the test of time - history is full of periods of opressive conservatism and waves of liberalism in personal freedoms (including sexual freedoms), I would say we are currently during the peak stage of liberal wave but raise of conservative tendencies in the last couple of years was strong. The change will probably be visible in the next twenty or thirty years in order to secure the pillars of developed society.
 

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Marriage is a concept that is bulletproofed by thousands of years of human history.

New way of life & temporary bonding (mostly single life & multiple sexual partners or loose relationships) was not common before (only in some primitive societies) and sleeping around was permitted mostly for high-profile men in positions of power (and even then it was usually treated as secret by them). Even in Greco-Roman world, sexual freedom was perceived as something temporary while family came always first (together with all the responsibilities), there was "fun period" but ultimately everyone knew that serious duties & marriage will happen.

It is easy to look at marriage while being jaded or single & childless & not married before as something without sense, however marriage was conceived mostly as a "stable cell" for raising children and building society on solid foundations (as married men were less of "loose cannons", they were also more obedient when it came to observing rules of power and they were more eager to gave their own lives in defending their families, children, land given by king, prince or warlord if man was supposed to be a soldier in time of war). For me it is clear that non-married guys and childless guys will never fully comprehend how having a family change your way of thinking - suddenly you want to work more, don't want to lose time on futile hobbies or relationships anymore, you think how to protect your family from various threats if you need to, you are less interested in making aggressive manouvers at work that are not well-thought but simultaneously you plan for the future more and strategize more about important choices. Sex becomes less important as marriage provides you with it often enough to stop thinking about it all the time and it becomes natural that you think about other matters, which are more important. Some of my old friends (peaceful guys) trained themselves to use guns and acquired gun permits while declared themselves as pacifists years before they had little children.

Having family puts you into next step of your own evolution - which is incredibly funny as nowadays society tells you that "you don't need to have family, self-development is just as much important" - yeah, well, tbh I do not see too much self-development when I look at single acquaintances of mine or my wife - it's just another boyfriend/girlfriend, another cool trip abroad sort of story or money invested into some real estate (which is pretty much what everyone does to some extent in Central Europe where I live). Being mature is also about understanding that your life and yourself are not constant - you change and having stable family helps you mature and understand other aspects of life better (especially human bonds as suddenly you need to protect them more - it is not only your choice but also your duty when you have children - it changes your perspective a lot, trust me - I still remember how I thought 10 years ago when I just wanted to sleep with many women, preferably with no ties attached and rolled my eyes when I heard that one or another of my friends got married.

Sure some guys hate additional duties, little children cry or nagging of wife (which needs to care much more about baby than about herself - not to mention husband) more than to see value in that higher purpose that is achieved by staying with the same women and raising children but I have already written on the forums that life is not about pick up per se - meeting various women is awesome stage of man's life when you are usually young and everything feels so unique and fresh, there's new experience around every corner, that's how you feel and that's ok, that's how it should be - after some time your own mind usually blunts this need for novelty - that's the call of nature and sign of passing time, getting older - suddenly stability does not sound that bad - it is important to choose the right partner before trying to trick the nature in her own game will end with nature tricking you and idea of marriage supports that need to have family, which most of the people still have.

I generally do not believe that modern tendencies in social bonds will stand the test of time - history is full of periods of opressive conservatism and waves of liberalism in personal freedoms (including sexual freedoms), I would say we are currently during the peak stage of liberal wave but raise of conservative tendencies in the last couple of years was strong. The change will probably be visible in the next twenty or thirty years in order to secure the pillars of developed society.
Very long rant that completely misses there point. Did you even read the post you were responding to? No one is talking about "temporary bonding" or being single and childless. I was talking about how no fault divorce and outdated laws relating to division of family property are destroying civil marriage.
 

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Agree strongly with @justaroundthecorner on this. The family has been the foundational unit of society for millennia. That is why people who want to tear down society attack the family unit. Including those who ridiculed Dan Quayle for his "Family Values."

It is not some quaint outdated notion. It is the thread that society is woven from.

Period.
 

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They don't like men anymore just like it is in the US.
Lots of women SAY they don't in the abstract, same way many voters claim-in the abstract-they want a "nice person" to run for office, rather than a modern equivalent to a caudillo

In PRACTICE though, every gal who ain't a diesel dyke + Has a pulse is aroused and drawn to a guy with a virile edge. Just as most voters gravitate towards a candidate who at least appears to have some guts*(Even when they personally don't agree with many of this same candidate's policies), rather than a f-c-ing HR director who's somehow ended up on a ballot


*Hell, in the not too distant past, even CNN https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/14/opinion/zelizer-liberals-stop-whining was essentially encouraging "their side" to retrieve it's testicles out of Pelosi's panty drawer. Everyone except James Carville stopped coaxing Dems to take this direction, and they've been getting trounced ever since

Modern men have a similar dilemma. We've spent the past decade groaning over the unfairness of life, yet assiduously avoided the question of: "OK... What are some pragmatic strategies for reversing the tide of public opinion in our favor?" As noted elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...ntion-about-theory.284740/page-4#post-3171594 , duringm The 2000s and early 10s, this WAS the mindset which prevailed in our culture
 
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In PRACTICE though, every gal who ain't a diesel dyke + Has a pulse is aroused and drawn to a guy with a virile edge. Just as most voters gravitate towards a candidate who at least appears to have some guts*(Even when they personally don't agree with many of this same candidate's policies), rather than a f-c-ing HR director who's somehow ended up on a ballot
I don't know about that. I think a lot of women nowadays are basically asexual (just like a lot of people have given up on voting, to go with your analogy). There are LOTS and women out there who would be considered incels if they were men.
 
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I think a lot of women nowadays are basically asexual...
If you're in Minessota, hunting Somali cooter, this is almost certainly true. Refusing to lay off the infibulation has been more deleterious to the sex lives of these gals than Game Of Thrones ending has been to whatever stardom Kit Harrington once enjoyed
 

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those who ridiculed Dan Quayle for his "Family Values."
My high school girlfriend had a rich banker father from Indiana who knew him quite well. They played a lot of golf together. The media joke about calling him stupid was not accurate at all. He is actually a really smart guy.
 
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Including those who ridiculed Dan Quayle for his "Family Values."
What many of us find laughable is a professional politician of any sort thinking that THEY'RE fit to lecture the rest of us normies on private morality, whenever they're not propping up hyper-authoritarian regimes which keep The Third World dirt poor and unlettered/Expanding The National Security State even further than it's been since 9/11


That's more absurd than Raquisha down the block pontificating to everyone in earshot on subjects such as virtue and temperance, when she's reliant on the state to feed her 8 kids by that many baby daddies
 

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Marriage is a concept that is bulletproofed by thousands of years of human history.

New way of life & temporary bonding (mostly single life & multiple sexual partners or loose relationships) was not common before (only in some primitive societies) and sleeping around was permitted mostly for high-profile men in positions of power (and even then it was usually treated as secret by them). Even in Greco-Roman world, sexual freedom was perceived as something temporary while family came always first (together with all the responsibilities), there was "fun period" but ultimately everyone knew that serious duties & marriage will happen.

It is easy to look at marriage while being jaded or single & childless & not married before as something without sense, however marriage was conceived mostly as a "stable cell" for raising children and building society on solid foundations (as married men were less of "loose cannons", they were also more obedient when it came to observing rules of power and they were more eager to gave their own lives in defending their families, children, land given by king, prince or warlord if man was supposed to be a soldier in time of war). For me it is clear that non-married guys and childless guys will never fully comprehend how having a family change your way of thinking - suddenly you want to work more, don't want to lose time on futile hobbies or relationships anymore, you think how to protect your family from various threats if you need to, you are less interested in making aggressive manouvers at work that are not well-thought but simultaneously you plan for the future more and strategize more about important choices. Sex becomes less important as marriage provides you with it often enough to stop thinking about it all the time and it becomes natural that you think about other matters, which are more important. Some of my old friends (peaceful guys) trained themselves to use guns and acquired gun permits while declared themselves as pacifists years before they had little children.

Having family puts you into next step of your own evolution - which is incredibly funny as nowadays society tells you that "you don't need to have family, self-development is just as much important" - yeah, well, tbh I do not see too much self-development when I look at single acquaintances of mine or my wife - it's just another boyfriend/girlfriend, another cool trip abroad sort of story or money invested into some real estate (which is pretty much what everyone does to some extent in Central Europe where I live). Being mature is also about understanding that your life and yourself are not constant - you change and having stable family helps you mature and understand other aspects of life better (especially human bonds as suddenly you need to protect them more - it is not only your choice but also your duty when you have children - it changes your perspective a lot, trust me - I still remember how I thought 10 years ago when I just wanted to sleep with many women, preferably with no ties attached and rolled my eyes when I heard that one or another of my friends got married.

Sure some guys hate additional duties, little children cry or nagging of wife (which needs to care much more about baby than about herself - not to mention husband) more than to see value in that higher purpose that is achieved by staying with the same women and raising children but I have already written on the forums that life is not about pick up per se - meeting various women is awesome stage of man's life when you are usually young and everything feels so unique and fresh, there's new experience around every corner, that's how you feel and that's ok, that's how it should be - after some time your own mind usually blunts this need for novelty - that's the call of nature and sign of passing time, getting older - suddenly stability does not sound that bad - it is important to choose the right partner before trying to trick the nature in her own game will end with nature tricking you and idea of marriage supports that need to have family, which most of the people still have.

I generally do not believe that modern tendencies in social bonds will stand the test of time - history is full of periods of opressive conservatism and waves of liberalism in personal freedoms (including sexual freedoms), I would say we are currently during the peak stage of liberal wave but raise of conservative tendencies in the last couple of years was strong. The change will probably be visible in the next twenty or thirty years in order to secure the pillars of developed society.
Precisely my mentality. Very well written, bravo.

I agree with you about the power of this institution and I agree that it would be naive to throw it out.

I also agree with @Bokanovsky that monogamy can be had w/o marriage. There is obviously much analysis about the modern state of marriage that make it extremely risky. But there are ways to mitigate that. One friend of mine got a "private marriage" as a mitigation strategy, I don't know the details.

What you're hitting is the power of playing long term games with long term people. This is something that can truly change a lot of us men for the better.

One thing I wasn't sure I understood properly was the following sentence:

"Sure some guys hate additional duties, little children cry or nagging of wife (which needs to care much more about baby than about herself - not to mention husband)"

In my mind, the husband should be priority #1 before the children (within reason) It means that he gets the reverence in the household and his needs are paramount. The kids get their basic survival needs met but he must be viewed and treated with a kingly reverence within the household. The kids being prioritized at every turn of the road at the expense of making the husband a background prop is something I see very often with women who "prioritize the kids". It's like he slowly fades into the background and loses gravity.
 

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I don't know about that. I think a lot of women nowadays are basically asexual (just like a lot of people have given up on voting, to go with your analogy). There are LOTS and women out there who would be considered incels if they were men.
I agree! Of course, if you are in the top 1-5% of men or happen to be there at the exact moment a woman is ovulating, the stars are aligned, she'll make an exception. Look up stats, according to Google one in two women struggle with "low sexual desire" and "disinterest in sex" in the US. That's A LOT!!!!

Something about sex here is broken. Of course, there are exceptions. I live in an area with lots of tourists. The only chicks I'm bedding are women from elsewhere.
 

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In my mind, the husband should be priority #1 before the children (within reason) It means that he gets the reverence in the household and his needs are paramount. The kids get their basic survival needs met but he must be viewed and treated with a kingly reverence within the household. The kids being prioritized at every turn of the road at the expense of making the husband a background prop is something I see very often with women who "prioritize the kids". It's like he slowly fades into the background and loses gravity.
Dude, marriage all the time was about children not the guy getting laid

till 2nd world war it was quite common to be brothels anywhere in the world where guys would go to smash something, and it was something commonly accepted too

marriage was all the time about children and taking care of them

women also till then would come with a substantial wedding gift from her parents
 

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I'll admit, since Charlie Kirk’s death, I’ve gone deep down the rabbit hole of U.S. politics, the alt-right, and Christian nationalism. I’ve found myself arguing with a few Christian nationalists lately, especially over their more divisive ideas and their belief that religion should be intertwined with government.

To be honest, I keep getting my arguments handed back to me, mostly because I’m not very well-versed in either the Bible or politics. Still, one of their central claims is that society is falling apart because of a moral decline, that we’ve lost our sense of right and wrong, and that men have lost their roles as strong leaders and protectors.

I’m not saying I agree or disagree with your post, but it definitely reminded me of some of the things they’ve been saying lately. Just thought I’d share that.
The ironic thing about the USA is that it is fundamentally (no pun intended) secularish or "Christmas & Easter" Christians, and only a smallish cohort of real devotees that think Jesus was divine, etc., but one of the main foundational tenets is freedom of religion - and thus (ultimately incompatible with Christian nationalist State.

That said, throughout history, there is the one reality that all States/tribes/etc. have intuitively understood - that female sexuality must be tightly controlled and broadly (pun NOT intended) allotted to the men so that they have agency in the building & maintenance of the society. The Sexual Revolution had dealt a major blow to this vital social meme. Angry-God Religions, with all the attending fear of God, have been a very good system to enforce this meme.
 

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Dude, marriage all the time was about children not the guy getting laid

till 2nd world war it was quite common to be brothels anywhere in the world where guys would go to smash something, and it was something commonly accepted too

marriage was all the time about children and taking care of them

women also till then would come with a substantial wedding gift from her parents
It was also about a woman getting access to a wage earner's paycheck, and that wage earner getting someone to make him a home. When women stop needing men's paycheck, the system collapses.
 

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Until it's not their religion, exactly how they practice it. Of course this country was founded by people with strong beliefs, that's the rationale for keeping the government out of it. They'll just fvck it up like they do everything else.
The Founding Fathers were all Deists, which is a nice way of saying that they were secular stoics, but understood the powerful base that religion can deliver (pun NOT intended) to society.
 

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It was also about a woman getting access to a wage earner's paycheck, and that wage earner getting someone to make him a home. When women stop needing men's paycheck, the system collapses.
The paycheck idea is something that is very new, something that maybe started getting the norm with the industrial age

Marriage as an institution is something much older than the the beginning of the industrial age
 
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