"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Social Experiment 3

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Vypros said:
You're social experiment is causing her to like you.
If you only want her as a friend, it shouldn't matter. Besides, you can never know if she ACTUALLY likes you unless she outright says she does or starts doing things like kissing you.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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jaymo said:
If you only want her as a friend, it shouldn't matter.
Actually it DOES matter, because if the girl is starting to like him and he's just playing around with an experiment he is going to HURT her.

Experiment or not, there comes a certain point where you should stop playing with her feelings. Nobody deserves that.

I admire the experiment, but you are dragging it out a little too long now.
 

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So I hung out with this girl and played pool a few days ago. Ill admit she looked good. She said I looked good too. Still as always I kept it strictly friends. She talked to me about a guy she was seeing and what not. I kept my cool and all. She even texted him while we were hanging out. I think this girl likes me though. She sent me a text after I went home saying she had a really good time. Ill have to hang out with her a little more get some fashion tips and then go out on the town with her and hit on other girls in front of her to see how she reacts
 

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Sounds like your not good enough friends with her to get any benefits. It doesn't sound like your even in the friends zone, your in the semi-interested but he keeps sluffing me off, so I'll keep him on the backburner as a backup in case he ever smartens up kinda thing.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Expand your social network through her. Met her girl friends and lay them some pipe.
 

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Jayer said:
MacAvoy

you may be right. But does it matter as long as I'm the one in control?
This is a good experiment but what I don't hear about you doing is going out and constantly meeting new women. I'm not trying to bring you down here because your experiment is great as far as having a friend goes but expanding your social circle will expand your inner-world too (Scientifically proven). Ie. The brain creates new maps and connections and expands based on your external world also.

Have fun with this one and make sure you do get out and meet new babes.

-Subscribed to thread
 

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Charm thanks for the advice. She doesn't have 2 many girlfiends. The ones she has I've met and they aren't that hot. Still I hear what you are saying.

She's referenced things like "so why arent u interested in me" but I always told her that we are good friends and I wouldnt want to jepordize that. She agreed and said the same thing.

But yeah the real test is going to be when I hit on other girls in front of her. Lets see if she can take it. vice versa too. I will have to keep my cool.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Jayer said:
I see this girl as only a friend

No, you obviously don't, and am I the only one who was getting mad reading through that? In every single post you said something like "I admit I found her hot and was tempted"

I have a lot of female friends, actual friends who I treat like friends, and I feel that for their to be a true friendship you cant be attracted to each other. Now I'm not saying be friends with UGs (I'm certainly not), but only be friends with girls who you aren't attracted to, otherwise you give off this sexual vibe and give her wrong ideas, kind of like what your doing.

Now this doesn't always work, I had to stop hanging out with this HB8 because she was attracted to me, she was kind of like this girl your friends with, and I didn't want to lead her on.
 
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Sounds like your not good enough friends with her to get any benefits. It doesn't sound like your even in the friends zone, your in the semi-interested but he keeps sluffing me off, so I'll keep him on the backburner as a backup in case he ever smartens up kinda thing.
I have to agree. You post something new like after MONTHS. If you were really friends, you'd see her more than once every few months. This is a back burner relationship, nothing close to friendship.

But if you are having fun, whatever!

I wouldn't worry too much about "hurting" her, as long as you aren't leading her on, or giving her the impression that you want more. Seems to me you are keeping it clear that you are only interested in friendship.
 

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Well she calls me her brother lol

but yeah I don't hang out with her that much cause I'm busy.

And I'm not attracted to her don't worry. I can say someone is attractive which she is but not want to jump their bones. But ok If I'm drinking and she rubs against me that's a different story!

Thanx for all the input!
 

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thats cool, its better than nothing. who knows maybe she can give you some really good pointers.:rockon:
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Well ok I have to admit I was really tested here last wednesday.

We went to grab a few drinks which I paid for. Then she invited me to the movies which she paid for. While we were hanging out she started talking to me about how her ex was such a nice guy and used to bring her flowers and what not. Then she told me something that made me feel weird. She said since her ex she's slept with 3 guys. The thing that made me feel weird was that she wasn't in a relationship with them. They were just dating.

For some reason after she said this I saw her differently. I thought for a moment that maybe I should just try hit it, but then I realized that I do appreciate her as a friend and the best thing was keeping it platonic.

I guess it just bothered me because I thought she was more consevative with her sexuality. I respected that she was in an LTR and had sex but didn't think she slept with the guys she had mentioned she was dating.

Anyway after I calmed down inside, we both talked about relationships and etc... It seemed like we really had a good time as friends.

So thus far it does seem possible to have a good friend who is female. However the real test is going to come when either her or I are flirting or getting with someone else in front of each other....
 

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So this experiment is to prove that men and women can be friends?

All you seem to be doing is irritating her and dragging yourself deeper into friends zone.
Meanwhile you're slowly realizing you like her, while she gets fed up with you. Looks to me like Harry was right.
This is going to get REAL ugly when you guys start seeing each other with other people.

Experiment... lol nah more like torture or S&M for both of you.
Who knows, she might enjoy sodomy as well when the tables are turned and you like her.

Keep us updated, i wanna see how this pans out. :)
 

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I don't think she's getting fed up with me... its nice to have a female friend dude. Its also showing good will power on my part not to cross that line when I've had some good opportunities too.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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