"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I notice it's considered "chode-like" here to get a woman out of your social circle, partly because it's too easy - it's picking low hanging fruit supposedly. I'm not so sure I agree.

To me, there is one distinct advantage to picking a girl from your social circle: You have some idea of what the girl is like, her character, personality, etc.

If you pick up a random woman off the street or in a bar or whatever, the chances of her being fairly compatible with you are probably astronomical. Especially if you are like me and are rather picky about their personalities. There's a fairly narrow spectrum of women that I find suitable.

Of course, if you're just looking for a quick bang, like most of the community, it doesn't really matter. And when I speak of social circle here, I mean your general circle of acquaintences, not a close knit group.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I notice it's considered "chode-like" here to get a woman out of your social circle, partly because it's too easy - it's picking low hanging fruit supposedly
Sounds like your latest strawman, Mr zekko.

In my years here, this is the first time I've ever heard of it.
 

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I've read that it is looked down upon because it is the way AFCs meet girls, as opposed to the "alpha" way of cold approaching. Which gives you wider choice.
 

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It's looked down upon for the same reason that incest is looked down upon.
 

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zekko said:
I notice it's considered "chode-like" here to get a woman out of your social circle, partly because it's too easy - it's picking low hanging fruit supposedly. I'm not so sure I agree.

To me, there is one distinct advantage to picking a girl from your social circle: You have some idea of what the girl is like, her character, personality, etc.

If you pick up a random woman off the street or in a bar or whatever, the chances of her being fairly compatible with you are probably astronomical. Especially if you are like me and are rather picky about their personalities. There's a fairly narrow spectrum of women that I find suitable.

Of course, if you're just looking for a quick bang, like most of the community, it doesn't really matter. And when I speak of social circle here, I mean your general circle of acquaintences, not a close knit group.
If you're looking for an LTR, social circles are ideal for the reasons you mentioned.

I wouldn't use it to try and pick-up women though. You can very quickly get labelled a sleazeball hitting on multiple women in the same group. It all depends on the group, most friends/acquaintances I roll with tend to be pretty conservative socially. People here "date" not "hook-up." In a social circle filled with party animals/bar-hoppers...I don't think it matters as much.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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sstype said:
If you're looking for an LTR, social circles are ideal for the reasons you mentioned.

I wouldn't use it to try and pick-up women though. You can very quickly get labelled a sleazeball hitting on multiple women in the same group. It all depends on the group, most friends/acquaintances I roll with tend to be pretty conservative socially. People here "date" not "hook-up." In a social circle filled with party animals/bar-hoppers...I don't think it matters as much.
Yes, well that makes sense.

Sometimes I forget that the main focus here is on random hookups.
This is probably a function of getting older, but I find that I don't enjoy the prospect of spending time with women that I don't really like. It was fine when I was a younger because I just wanted to get a nut - any warm body would do.
 
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