Shootin4Dreams
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Besides waiting to text her back or calling or flaking on dates. What are examples like conversation wise to have her chase you?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
So when you guys say to have a women chase you. Examples please?
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Do whatever you want 24/7 regardless of how women feel about it or how much they approve of it.
Spin plates and allow women to fight for your attention instead of being a weak, thirsty, desperate faggot who focuses all his attention on ONE woman.
Spin plates and allow women to fight for your attention instead of being a weak, thirsty, desperate faggot who focuses all his attention on ONE woman.
marmel75
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There are no examples. It's what happens when a woman wants you and knows you have options.
First and foremost, keep improving yourself. This is your top priority.
Then, keep talking to several girls/women. Set a limit on how much you want to chase; for instance, two strikes, and stand by it. If a woman does not respond within your set limit, next her and approach another woman.
(1) Conversation-wise, show her that you are a man of substance. Show her that you have general awareness of the world and an all-round personality. Talk about different industries, talk about different careers and different fields of work, talk about different majors at college and different areas of education, talk about recent news and what's happening in the country and around the world, da da da. No matter how feminist a girl/woman is and how tough she acts/pretends to act towards men, submissiveness is in her nature and she will always look for a protector, bread-winner, and strong and all-round person she can bank on in times of difficulty/need.
(2) Avoid talking about movies, music, entertainment, fairy-tale love stories, da da da. That's girly talk; leave such talk for girls/women. A little bit is ok, but it should not be a predominant part of conversation.
If you fall into (1) and other guys she is talking to fall into (2), she may not chase you, because you have already dropped her, but she will spread the word out and make her friends/other girls chase you. It's because you are different. It's common sense.
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
You got the wrong mindset. As soon as you do something or not do something because of a woman, you are already in a weaker position.
Be a great man for yourself and society. Girls will start begging you to have sex with them because they want to be a part of something society deems valuable.
Making yourself a "catch" to a woman is more of a lifelong strategy than it is a tactic.
I feel like the moment you consciously decide to pursue a woman, you have become the chaser and not the chasee, no matter how you try to play the push/pull game. Sometimes this works, but most of the time it doesn't.
Your best bet is to work on yourself and then put yourself in the limelight of women.
Once you've come to the point where your "wait hours or days before you text back" are natural and not planned [because you have too much business to take care of], then you have truly become mysterious.
As your social and sexual value increases, your consciousness of your game should become more and more minimal.
I feel like the moment you consciously decide to pursue a woman, you have become the chaser and not the chasee, no matter how you try to play the push/pull game. Sometimes this works, but most of the time it doesn't.
Your best bet is to work on yourself and then put yourself in the limelight of women.
Once you've come to the point where your "wait hours or days before you text back" are natural and not planned [because you have too much business to take care of], then you have truly become mysterious.
As your social and sexual value increases, your consciousness of your game should become more and more minimal.
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EyeBRollin
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Focus on making your life fulfilling without women. Go to the gym. Focus on your work and business. It takes time to build your roster of plates, but once you get a few you give no **** about call back time, etc. They will fight for your attention.
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And, always stay a mystery. Live your life well and work on you. You have a life and she has to understand that. Never lose yourself to any woman. Selectively tell her what you want her to know about you, and let her ask the questions. Don't be an open book and a tell all, women find that boring. Always keep her guessing, wondering and if'ng. That keeps her interest level VERY high and she'll come to you with a mattress on her back. 
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OK...thee is a woman in my community attractive, single. I used to go out of my way to try to talk to her back before I took the red pill. She was friendly but nothing more.
Now when I see her I make strong eye contact, a small smile and leave it at that. I don't approach because I don't need to. Last party we were at she approached me, telling me that her lip balm made her lips supersoft and kissable. I gave her some discreet kino and told her another time (my son was with me and my crazy ex-wife was about 30m away). Now she is pursuing me. By NOT chasing her my value has skyrocketed. It shows I have self-confidence and choices (like honey to a bee) and that if she wants me she needs to earn my attention. That makes me the one with power which means less bullshot if we do hook up.
Because I haven't now pedestalised her I am outcome independent.
Once you achieve that you will stop being the desperate guy waiting for a text, or the one who is heartbroken because the number he was given was fake.
Another time I told a girl I liked to come around in the morning. But I would still be in bed. She came.
It is still a man"s job to show initial interest. After that make them do some work.
Now when I see her I make strong eye contact, a small smile and leave it at that. I don't approach because I don't need to. Last party we were at she approached me, telling me that her lip balm made her lips supersoft and kissable. I gave her some discreet kino and told her another time (my son was with me and my crazy ex-wife was about 30m away). Now she is pursuing me. By NOT chasing her my value has skyrocketed. It shows I have self-confidence and choices (like honey to a bee) and that if she wants me she needs to earn my attention. That makes me the one with power which means less bullshot if we do hook up.
Because I haven't now pedestalised her I am outcome independent.
Once you achieve that you will stop being the desperate guy waiting for a text, or the one who is heartbroken because the number he was given was fake.
Another time I told a girl I liked to come around in the morning. But I would still be in bed. She came.
It is still a man"s job to show initial interest. After that make them do some work.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.