I just use the Lipogaine for shampoo and conditioner. All men around 30 start to thin their hair. If you catch it early enough, your hair will grow back and be nice and thick. I had it thin in the front and back sides. With the regimen listed above, all reversed and under control. However, you must get a minoxidil / finasteride topical solution like I listed above. I think it costs around 30 bucks a month on average all in. Not a bad price to grow hair. I also only spray my hair now once a day in the morning, so no need to spray twice a day, which cuts down on cost. In the beginning, I did use it twice a day for about 3 - 6 months or so just get things going. Now it's just a maintenance thing. Zero side effects since nothing is ingested. It's all topical.