"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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so the first time you have sex with a girl...

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Should you cuddle with her and talk about feelings, etc? I LOVE doing that ****, honestly. I enjoy it almost as much as sex.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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cuddling is fine but sharing emotions? ... bro sorry but that kinda sound gay lol
 
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sorry dude, i enjoy connecting with women, it makes the sex better.
 
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After you have been seeing her for a while maybe, but vomiting your feelings all over her the first time you hook up is not going to help.

You need some so she doesn't feel like a cheap slvt, just don't go overboard, Remember you hardly know her.

Cuddling is ok, but don't delude yourself it is as good as pounding your 10 inch jackhammer into her tight pvssy.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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If you are a lesbian, I guess it's allright, unless you are supposed to be the butch, there.
 
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blueline said:
Should you cuddle with her and talk about feelings, etc?
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That's what her stuffed animals are for.
 
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blueline said:
sorry dude, i enjoy connecting with women, it makes the sex better.
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Well if you like it, then why are you asking others about it? Cuddle away.

I don't know what feelings there are to talk about. Other than being hungry or sleepy. But maybe that's just because I'm a man.
 
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You got it half right. Women want you to hold them after sex, but more importantly they want you to SHUT UP. No one wants to hear about your stupid feelings, especially the girl who just let you fvck her. The more you talk, the worse she will feel about having had sex with you.

Women like not knowing every detail about you, because if they like you, then they can fill in the blanks with imagined, romance novel perfection. If you'll just be quiet after sex, she'll lay there and think about how great you are. Talking ruins it.
 
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There are better ways to make a girl not feel like a slut. None of them involve talking.

Finally, if you're doing your job right, the girl should feel lucky/happy to have slept with you. Not like a slut. More like "I hit the jackpot!" Only replace "jackpot" with "g spot."
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Bible_Belt said:
You got it half right. Women want you to hold them after sex, but more importantly they want you to SHUT UP. No one wants to hear about your stupid feelings, especially the girl who just let you fvck her. The more you talk, the worse she will feel about having had sex with you.

Women like not knowing every detail about you, because if they like you, then they can fill in the blanks with imagined, romance novel perfection. If you'll just be quiet after sex, she'll lay there and think about how great you are. Talking ruins it.
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this right here! :up:
 
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Bible_Belt said:
You got it half right. Women want you to hold them after sex, but more importantly they want you to SHUT UP. No one wants to hear about your stupid feelings, especially the girl who just let you fvck her. The more you talk, the worse she will feel about having had sex with you.

Women like not knowing every detail about you, because if they like you, then they can fill in the blanks with imagined, romance novel perfection. If you'll just be quiet after sex, she'll lay there and think about how great you are. Talking ruins it.
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well, you got it



to OP: even better: don't hold them straight away but wait a little. So she has time to want it. So wait a little then tell her, come here. You can also don't say, do anything and let her come into your arms, then hold her.
I'm a girl and i know that we don't like when a guy shows needyness, especially the first time we have sex with them. We love when the guy is sexual desire and **** us but we also like when his affection is hard to get. We don't like distance either, cause we'd think the guy is just empty inside. So you need to find the right middle
 
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Rollo Tomassi said:
That's what her stuffed animals are for.
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Funny! I just about spit pop all over my monitor!

Could cuddle with one of her cats I suppose. They don't give a sh!t about your feelings, but do like to be held.
 
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blueline said:
Should you cuddle with her and talk about feelings, etc? I LOVE doing that ****, honestly. I enjoy it almost as much as sex.
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In a word, no. For starters, less is more. And if you charge straight in with the feelings crap you risk coming across as a stage 5 wuss/clinger. Women might want that sort of behavior from a guy, but it's now what they respond well to.

This sums things up way better than I ever could:

http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/why-you-should-leave-after-sex/
 
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Need more info. man. This girl a ONS, current/new plate, has she hinted at a LTR, what?

Here's my take on it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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BBbardot said:
well, you got it



to OP: even better: don't hold them straight away but wait a little. So she has time to want it. So wait a little then tell her, come here. You can also don't say, do anything and let her come into your arms, then hold her.
I'm a girl and i know that we don't like when a guy shows needyness, especially the first time we have sex with them. We love when the guy is sexual desire and **** us but we also like when his affection is hard to get. We don't like distance either, cause we'd think the guy is just empty inside. So you need to find the right middle
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You are 17 ***** you don't know what you want.....you are a kid lol
 
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BBbardot said:
well, you got it



to OP: even better: don't hold them straight away but wait a little. So she has time to want it. So wait a little then tell her, come here. You can also don't say, do anything and let her come into your arms, then hold her.
I'm a girl and i know that we don't like when a guy shows needyness, especially the first time we have sex with them. We love when the guy is sexual desire and **** us but we also like when his affection is hard to get. We don't like distance either, cause we'd think the guy is just empty inside. So you need to find the right middle
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how many guys have you slept with and when have you had sex for the first time?
 
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ChalengeGuyFan said:
how many guys have you slept with and when have you had sex for the first time?
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Bardot is one hot French chick. We have skyped a lot. She sings to me.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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