So I actually made myself approach a girl who was exactly my taste tonight

[17 shots]

lol fake news... He's trolling you guys

 

[bigdave17]

lol fake news... He's trolling you guys

I'll post a screenshot of her calling my phone if you really like at 1 am

Not like it means anything. She could easily ignore my texts

 

[bigdave17]

she responded so that's a good sign. The fact she just got out of a relationship this week, what does that mean for me? Do women bounce so quickly from relationship to relationship? I know I gotta start it very casually and I'm in no hurry


she's 29 and middle eastern, so I'm sure her whole family is asking why she's not already married

 

[ChillDude6767]

I'm sure her whole family is asking why she's not already married

Not gonna happen.

 

[bigdave17]

Not gonna happen.

what's not gonna happen?


what's your opinion on her just being out of a relationship? what does that entail for me?

 

[bigdave17]

Remember...a desperate car salesman is NOT a successful car salesman!!!

Desperation repels!

Same here!!

Transform/Lose that desperate vibe so you can/will be successful!!

I agree

when I'm not desperate, I can be immensely likable. I gotta keep telling myself, the less I want her to like me, the more she will.

she's been responding instantly to all my texts. Going great so far

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I'm destined to die alone dude. It was written in the stars that I never meet anybody who loves me

That's the spirit!

 

[17 shots]

I'll post a screenshot of her calling my phone if you really like at 1 am

Not like it means anything. She could easily ignore my texts

You could post a screen of any number calling you, don't disrespect my intelligence like that

 

[lamath]

That's the spirit!

Great music

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Dave it seems like you have control issues, not saying that in a negative way but realize that some things are out of your control. Couple that with your negative mindset, which is more overthinking than anything else is a bad recipe for success for women. Stop overthinking and trying to control situations you have no control over.

 

[spinich]

I am giving odds that Dave comes through again and finds some reason to reject this woman, or turns to jello like a 13 year old at his first dance sabotaging his chance at getting laid. Any takers???

 

[lamath]

I am giving odds that Dave comes through again and finds some reason to reject this woman, or turns to jello like a 13 year old at his first dance sabotaging his chance at getting laid. Any takers???

If Dave act IRL like he do on this forum its like 95% this happen

 

[RickTheToad]

she responded so that's a good sign. The fact she just got out of a relationship this week, what does that mean for me? Do women bounce so quickly from relationship to relationship? I know I gotta start it very casually and I'm in no hurry


she's 29 and middle eastern, so I'm sure her whole family is asking why she's not already married

If she just got out of a relationship, she will be on guard. You will prob. be the rebound dude if anything. I'd still proceed if you are attracted. Remember, give a little, take a little in terms of convo. Make the meet ASAP and don't chat that much on the phone or text. The one caveat would be if she reaches out to you, then of course, chat for a few minutes then say you have to get back to doing something (something is a work or activity, not something).

You got this. Don't fvck it up with your insecurities. Don't also fvck it up by being too available or chatting too much in between dates. Less is more. They will think about you more thus driving their interests up for you. If you're always available, they start to wonder about your value as a high status dude. At the date, it's all about her. I've done these nonchalantly in my dates before before the video below, but as a refresher, incorporate a couple during your date:

 

[EyeBRollin]

For the love of god do NOT text her tomorrow. Wait 5-9 days. You’re already too emotionally invested. Back off and cool down a bit. Let her wonder why she hasn’t heard from you.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Do NOT allow yourself to get all chit chatty with her, over texts!!

EVEN IF she is responding super positive...DO NOT keep it going like you are having a conversation in person. You are not in person!!

It can be a HUGE attraction killer. Again, end it on a high note by setting up a time and place to meet her next. Then let her have time and space to think about you, to wonder about you!

I am sure you like chit chatting via text with her. Stop.

Too much, even if she is responding positively, can be a turn off, because there is a tipping point that makes you look like you don’t have a life to pay attention to and/or too desperate to interact with her. You don’t know where that tipping point is. Once you cross it there is not much of a chance to undo it.

Do not overly start explaining who you are, what your life is about, how great you are, etc!! Allow her to wonder about you! Let there be mystery. Ask about her and LISTEN. Ask more about what she shared and then LISTEN. Repeat!!!

Mystery about you amplifies attraction!

I 100% endorse this. I've made this exact mistake in the past. If you over text, you'll either get friendzoned or she'll lose attraction. Good advice, you should take it Dave imo

 

[corrector]

she responded so that's a good sign. The fact she just got out of a relationship this week, what does that mean for me? Do women bounce so quickly from relationship to relationship? I know I gotta start it very casually and I'm in no hurry

Yeah, while the other guy is probably going to wait another 10-20 years for another girl to take him on. What you think she dated a Chad or Chadlite who also is in another relationship with another woman too? Would it matter to you seeing you could potentially be that other guy with her too? How would you feel if she moved on too quickly? You are giving her power and letting her use you by taking her on. Men are probably disposable to her. You are stroking her over-inflated ego BigDave.

Just at least make sure her ex is not some poor incel loner that got condemned to another 10 years of inceldom.

she's 29 and middle eastern, so I'm sure her whole family is asking why she's not already married

....or why she is seeing so many men.

 

[zekko]

I have to agree with those who told you not to chit chat by text too much. You drove the last woman away by chatting with her too much. Talk to her in person when you get her out.

 

[RickTheToad]

Funny story. I was at a happy hour not to long ago and two ladies were chatting about bumble and tinder; mid 20's. One, they didn't know tinder was a hookup app. Two, they didn't understand why I dude would chat them up, but never ask them out. I thought when people talked about that here that it was a fallacy. I was surprised. I just called them balless wonders to both of them, and told them you can only find the worst of the worst on OLD. I think OLD has made the ladies more masculine and the men more feminine.

 

[sosousage]

So what were your initial words when u approached her?

 

[bigdave17]

Hey guys I need your expert advice. I started texting her yesterday at 11 am. Very casual/light stuff asking her what she had planned for today (she had some bday party to go to). She asked me what im doing and i just said I'm working out and then seeing my folks. She told me I'm lucky and that her parents were back in AZ. She was responding instantly to me. She texted me at 1 and then i responded back at 3 cause I was working out. I just asked here if she enjoyed living in Illinois (she moved here couple years ago)

That was yesterday at 3. She hasn't responded back. Is this a dead lead? Should i text her to ask for a date anyways in couple days?