Do women see a guy smoking a cigar as sophisticated and classy or are they so turned off by the smell that it's not worth it? I smoke a cigar occasionally, but almost never around women, as I think the smell would be an instant turn-off.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Smoking Cigars
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
JaguarMike
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Smoking/drinking/cars/clothes all depends on the type of guy and his attitude. The majority of men that are in hollywood that women desire smoke cigarettes, and women don't care that THEY smoke, because "they look hot when they do it." Fact is, if you are a chump smoking a cigar they won't like it. If you are a pimp smoking a cigar they will like it. Try reframing your mindset this way, instead of thinking "will chicks not like me because I smoke cigars?" think, "that chick is hot, i'm gunna go talk to her and see if her personality matches it (while smoking cigar"
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You may wanna take a peek at my post Cigars 101
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