"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Small talk to something greater at parties.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
If you want to befriend someone, start treating them as a friend, instead of as a stranger. Be more honest and let down your mask a little bit. Joke around. Trust that they like you.
War Against Betaism
Master Don Juan
Exactly. One way that I get to setting up "hang out" dates is mentioning a good restaurant, and then telling the other people "We should totally go sometime this week!" Exchange numbers and then pull through with the plan if you're really down to networking.Isko said:In a way, you never do. There's no magic lightbulb that flashes when you become friends with someone. You just find yourself talking to them a bit more, and them talking to you more, and the conversation getting more interesting, and one of you might invite the other someplace or start doing things friends do.
If you want to befriend someone, start treating them as a friend, instead of as a stranger. Be more honest and let down your mask a little bit. Joke around. Trust that they like you.
This is my first time at really trying to develop a social life. I've proven to myself that people do like me and I can make friends.
I really would like to have a girlfriend (since I never been in a relationship before). I know girls are big on meeting guys through friends and at parties, so this is the perfect opportunity to meet girls outside of bars/clubs and the internet.
Anybody have tips on how I can chat up a girl at a party and have it lead to something? (preferably a relationship) How do I keep talking to her and not let her slip out without me ever seeing her again?
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
> Open with opener, small talk for <1-2 minutes.
> Tease, something situational, her dress, her hair, something she says, give her a stupid nickname etc.
> Needs to be a sexual/romantic shift in conversation. A sexual tease, CF comment or if getting solid IOI's maybe a push/pull compliment. Needs to be situational and backhanded so as not to be creepy.
If all goes well at this point, after a few minutes of talking, isolate. 'Hey come over here lets sit down', grab her hand/ass/hip/back for kino overkill.
If still going well, then you're in. Kiss close.
That was kinda how I was thinking. I didn't know small talk was for such a period of time. Sometimes I think I spend way too much time trying to gain rapport.Ease said:Id probably do something like:
> Open with opener, small talk for <1-2 minutes.
> Tease, something situational, her dress, her hair, something she says, give her a stupid nickname etc.
> Needs to be a sexual/romantic shift in conversation. A sexual tease, CF comment or if getting solid IOI's maybe a push/pull compliment. Needs to be situational and backhanded so as not to be creepy.
If all goes well at this point, after a few minutes of talking, isolate. 'Hey come over here lets sit down', grab her hand/ass/hip/back for kino overkill.
If still going well, then you're in. Kiss close.