"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Sleep quality vs life quality

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Can people post how many hours they sleep a night im doing a personal research on how sleep quality affects in life thus their energy towards game or building a frame.
do the successful DJ sleep the correct hours and stick to a routine or it does it matter?
My sleep pattern can be erratic but I sleep the right hours..... what does everyone else think..opinions please

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Imo depends alot of the quality of the sleep you are getting.

For me its about 7hr but sometime it feels far from enough
 

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Its unbroken sleep cycles that count. REM is where your body really recuperates. I lay in bed for 8 hours a night but probably only get 6 hours quality sleep when I take out time it takes to get to sleep, broken sleep cycles from going to the toilet and alarm clock going off.

I feel most refreshed after a power nap during the day than I do waking up in the morning however its not often i get chance to power nap.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I get somewhere between 6.5 and 7.5
It rears it’s ugly head if I lift hard on a particular day such as when I do heavy deadlifts.
So I try to adjust as needed.
 

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I get 8 to 10. I have always loved to sleep. I have a theory that hours spent sleeping don't count against one's life expectancy.

What I can't do is nap, or at least expect to fell better afterward. I wake up feeling more tired and groggy.
 

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I get somewhere between 6.5 and 7.5
It rears it’s ugly head if I lift hard on a particular day such as when I do heavy deadlifts.
So I try to adjust as needed.
Same here. On gym nights I sleep earlier and more hours then on normal days.
 

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I have insomnia so I only sleep 3-4 hours a night and that's broken up because I constantly wake up through the night.

I function very good, don't even feel tired most of the time.

Guess I'm one of those rare ones who don't need much sleep.
 

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Okay, I'm going to add something to this post because I'm probably the opposite of a lot of men on this forum. For 18 years I've been on permanent night shift. I get 6 to 7 hours sleep. Now, people will state nightshift is bad for you but look at my pic over the left. Yes, that is me. I will agree nightshift can be bad when you lose control of your life. For me, I work out regularly, have a part-time business, and I still function normally. First, I get at least 20 to 30 mins a day of sunlight during the warm months. I usually get more but that's an average. During the cold months, I use vitamin D in place of the lack of sun I may be getting. The nightshift gets complicated when you are married or have kids. However, if you are single as long as you have a healthy lifestyle it is doable. I could have been on a day shift a long time ago but I like working nights because of the downtime and also less drama. I'm not the gossip type of guy which most day shift or evening shift people are. When someone tells me news I act like Chris Rock in his stand up. I say what? you don't say? Really? I told you that ***** is crazy! Then I usually forget about it because I don't get a high of hearing negative news about other people's lives. That's just me. Anyways, that's how I do it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Can people post how many hours they sleep a night im doing a personal research on how sleep quality affects in life thus their energy towards game or building a frame.
do the successful DJ sleep the correct hours and stick to a routine or it does it matter?
My sleep pattern can be erratic but I sleep the right hours..... what does everyone else think..opinions please

cheers
Buy Why we sleep by Dr. Matt Walker

Check the JRE podcast. I think 1109?

8hrs is GOAT status. I am always working on this. One late night and I will be a mess.

2019, get sleep game on point. Keep hair vital, anti aging, and great for cognitive function plus heart health.

Less than 8hrs, its like owing a debt. You are indebted to the lack of sleep. Its less thsn 1% who are fully up to date with any less.

Best 15£ ever spent.
 

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6-7 hours, not enough , but I dont want to keep my life work/sleep/eat.
 

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I been off the site over the Christmas period now back on just at this stage Im not chasing the females focusing on myself sleep quality is not good enough or on time..and lack of excercise so them two have to change before I get onto the females...its about repping urself up and and ur physical looks and good health FIRST so many people I think miss this one out and wonder why they strike out. its a tough world but most of it its your choices that make it so.
 

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Buy Why we sleep by Dr. Matt Walker

Check the JRE podcast. I think 1109?

8hrs is GOAT status. I am always working on this. One late night and I will be a mess.

2019, get sleep game on point. Keep hair vital, anti aging, and great for cognitive function plus heart health.

Less than 8hrs, its like owing a debt. You are indebted to the lack of sleep. Its less thsn 1% who are fully up to date with any less.

Best 15£ ever spent.
This.

Changed my whole perspective on sleep. Listened to this podcast 4 times. Sleep is so powerful.
 

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This.

Changed my whole perspective on sleep. Listened to this podcast 4 times. Sleep is so powerful.
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Right on mate. I had a late night out Friday. 5am FML.

Went creeping tonight. Operation get baeeeees. Didnt come close to pulling lol

Was absolutely exhausted. Chatted up a handful of baeees. Took digits but got eye ****ing and had chicks up on my space.

Was so exhausted, wouldn't even smash unless chick on top. SRS

The matt walker book or audible is genius. Dudes a neurologist and specialist in sleep.

Real talk, I have always HATES sleeping over at a girls place. At 30, i pull the chute after smash. Not immediately after nutting but, shortly. I do damage control to avoid a false accusations lulz

Walker explains its a defense mechanism. Unless in your own bed, you're not getting that deep REM sleep. Its evolutionary safety precaution to protect the body. Its why you get ****ed on tine difference or sleeping in a hotel.

I can now better articulate the following to chicks after smashin (women are still pissed regardless but i dont care).

I remember bailing afyer a smash, kissing a chicks forehead (she swallowed lol) and i told her i would call her later.

I went full AMS and did not lol
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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6-7 hours, not enough , but I dont want to keep my life work/sleep/eat.
Its not but i am getting 10x REM sleep as of late. Thanks to Walkers book. The tips snd just working on it.

4 hrs of deep REM sleep> 8hrs of broken sleep.

I felt like **** since my late night.

Buying new bedding soon.
 

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I tried to sleep at least 6-7h daily, feels okish on the work and evening time afterwork at home
One rule which I open for me is you must go sleep WHEN exactly you wanted 1st time of the evening, then you fall asleep quickly and have a healthy dream!
 

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I think sleep quality is very important! Here are some simple measures that help me:

Be physically active during the day - exercise, go for a walk, take the stairs and not the elevator, clean your apartment, play with your children and pets, have sex, wash your car, go dancing with friends after work. In a word do anything to get physically tired by the end of the day, this state helps us sleep better. Mental fatigue makes you restless and stressed, physical fatigue makes your sleepy.
Make sure you have a comfortable bed, fresh linens and shut drapes in your bedroom. It also wouldn’t hurt to open the windows there for 10–20 minutes before you turn in to get some fresh air in.
No TV right before bed. The last hour before getting into bed should be spent reading or listening to audio books, taking a bath, having sex, applying beauty treatments or enjoying slow relaxing music. TV is too stimulating, keeps your mind alert and feeds it a lot of information that needs to be processed one way of the other which would keep you awake longer than you want.
Do some yoga or simple stretching exercises before bed - it would help you relax.
Try massaging your head and back of the neck with your own fingers for 5–6 minutes before going to bed. When muscles in this area are in spasm which often happens when you are stressed or tired this may prevent you from falling asleep.
Try aroma therapy - lavender oil put into aroma lamp or a couple of drops of on on your pillow as well as keeping a small sack of dried lavender under your pillow or on the nightstand can help your sleep better.
Take a hot shower or a hot bath before going to bed without immersing your head into the water. This will cause the blood to rush away from your brain to other parts of the body which would automatically make you sleepy, simple physics.
If you can’t fall asleep because of persistent thoughts about your problems that attack you once your are in bed, say to yourself: I will think about it tomorrow, and try thinking about some pleasant things, your best memories, your loved ones, the things you want to buy from your next salary and so on.
 

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I notice that its not so much the total time but the moment when you sleep, sleeping 8 hours from midnight to 8 get me great mental and physical performances...on the other side 8 hours from 3 to 11 wont as much.

Also 8 hours of deep sleep are better than 10 hours of crappy sleep either cause you drunk caffeine, the environment is too hot/too cold or if you are stressed.

Too bad I have mentally sick neightbours that feel the need to make noise early morning and force me to sleep with ear plugs unless Im really tired.
 

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I notice that its not so much the total time but the moment when you sleep, sleeping 8 hours from midnight to 8 get me great mental and physical performances...on the other side 8 hours from 3 to 11 wont as much.

Also 8 hours of deep sleep are better than 10 hours of crappy sleep either cause you drunk caffeine, the environment is too hot/too cold or if you are stressed.
Pretty much this, and I also want to add on that CONSISTENCY in your sleep schedule is essential. If you go to sleep and wake up at different times throughout the week, your biological clock is going to be fvcked.

Having said that, I've been trying to sleep 10-6am and it's the best sleep I've been having in a long time, despite waking up early.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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