"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Sitting at a bar right now

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Making a commitment to appear socially normal.

Struck me how OFFENSIVE/inappropriate/rude it is to only want a girl for a hole in her body. This is what I've been getting used to with just escorts and Seeking Arrangement.

Idk if I'm on the right track here.

Btw, I really don't think looks are my problem. That's something that occurred to me when I went downtown last week.

I should just try talking about myself. I think I'm a pretty interesting guy. Definitely intelligent. If these girls blame me for fvcking hookers then oh well.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Remembering a line from The Mystery Method saying how girls screen out guys who have a "dubious intent." (among other reasons).

There's basically 2 sides of the fence. Which are you on? Do you wish people well or harm?
 

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That's it buddy, keep drinking. In 20 min start talking to real women and report back.
 
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A lot of the guys I see with girls are like those hipster/millennial/metropolitan/kinda queer looking type. I don't get it.

They remind me of the guy Harvey Danger who sang that one song.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Oh yea, also...

I'm SCARY. No matter how much I try to hide it, the psycho will come out at some point. Makes it difficult to form a LTR, if not impossible.

I'm quite combative in a domestic situation.
 
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Obvious stuff....

Just from sitting at a REAL PLACE....

OLD is a waste of time. What kind of girl would be on there? For rizzle.
 

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Oh yea, also...

I'm SCARY. No matter how much I try to hide it, the psycho will come out at some point. Makes it difficult to form a LTR, if not impossible.

I'm quite combative in a domestic situation.
Richard your Killin me
 
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I read one of your posts recently about how you went to a bar and started badmouthing the guy who was picking up trash.

I knew from then that I shouldn't listen to anything you say.

This is an example of terrible social skills from a forum of people who tell me mine are terrible.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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OLD is a waste of time. What kind of girl would be on there? For rizzle.
There are not many quality women on OLD but they do exist on there. I met my partner on there (but that's bias so let's ignore that). But four of my close friends met fvcking awesome women on Tinder. If you know how to screen and don't mind wasting the time, OLD can yield results.

Remembering a line from The Mystery Method saying how girls screen out guys who have a "dubious intent." (among other reasons).

There's basically 2 sides of the fence. Which are you on? Do you wish people well or harm?
I actually agree with this. I tend to go into approaches with zero intent. I never chat to a woman for any other reason that to have some fun or interesting conversation. If she seems worth pursuing after five or ten minutes then I'll change gears to be a bit more flirty but still keeping it fun.

Maybe you could try just having fun talking to people?
 

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Come on Richard, show the world that SoSuave Forum has contributed to this society!

Check back with us after getting out of bar.
 

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I'm just treading water until I get my Lambo with personalized license plate LAMBO69.
Getting a lambo isn't going to drastically change your life. It will impress men more than women, by the way.

Why not enjoy your life now? Just meet some people! It doesn't even need to be women. The more fun and social you are, the more comfortable you'll be around women.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It will impress men more than women
I disagree.

What you people don't realize is that I used to be very socially popular and have a million friends with my phone ringing 100 times/day before I got arrested.

I've been there and done that. Think about it... What kind of "cred" could being in prison for 4 years earn me with other guys if I really cared. I'd rather keep it a secret.
 

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What you people don't realize is that I used to be very socially popular and have a million friends with my phone ringing 100 times/day
So what happened? Are you saying you choose not to be now?
 
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So what happened? Are you saying you choose not to be now?
I went to prison for 4 years.

There's a line between what matters and what doesn't, and "friendships" with other males does not.

Think about standing in front of a judge and hoping he only gives you a few years instead of 25. Think about how serious that is.

Now think about how all of that is just games compared to when I broke my neck when I was younger.

Now think how unimportant your "friends" seem.
 

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going to prison is low quality tho
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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