"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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single moms .. round 2

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I wouldn't try it if I were you.. but go ahead, if the mom thinks it's ok then you're in... I still would recommend against it, even though I have no idea about it, just the idea itself is messed up.

Why the fvck would you possibly want to fvck a single mom?
 

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muscleman said:
I know it's advised getting with single moms for obvious reasons, but what are your thoughts on a casual sex with one as long as she knows it's nothing more? Or is that still an unnecessary complication?
It's alright in theory but the question is how often they can get away for a tryst. You'll more than likely need to adjust your schedule to meet hers.
 

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So I read some of the other material here and I'm only looking at this from the perspective of gettin some. No dating ever. Just some casual sex once, maybe twice. I would be completely up front about it and if it's a go it's a go, if not forget it.

Maybe I should just give it a rest it seems complicated already and I haven't even done anything.
 

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muscleman said:
So I read some of the other material here and I'm only looking at this from the perspective of gettin some. No dating ever. Just some casual sex once, maybe twice. I would be completely up front about it and if it's a go it's a go, if not forget it.

Maybe I should just give it a rest it seems complicated already and I haven't even done anything.
There's a lot of guys in the forum who seem to believe that any type of sexual contact you have with a woman binds you to her like some type of horny lap dog. If you just want to play hit and run I say go right ahead. The thing with single mothers though is their limited amount of availability which effect spontaneity. Do you think you'd ever be able to call her on a random night for a quick booty call?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
There's a lot of guys in the forum who seem to believe that any type of sexual contact you have with a woman binds you to her like some type of horny lap dog...
DevanE said:
...You don't EVER want to get in a relationship with a single-mother because frankly you DON'T need to raise another man's child it's his job. You also have to remember to keep ALL contact AWAY from the child, pretty much you don't exist to this child because once he/she sees you a couple of times "leaving" in & out of their mother's room he/she will begin to associate you as taking a role and begin to develop behaviors associated with the parent so you'd rather NOT get in a situation like this to begin with and develop that false sense of security in that child nor would you let a child THINK that it's ok for there mother to be with a man they don't really know. You get what I'm saying...?
See, told 'ya. It's not that what DevanE said wasn't necessarily true but you had said that all you wanted to do is bed them without getting into a relationship and he's talking about raising some other man's offspring.
 

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DevanE said:
Cisco I don't really follow what your saying...? because I DID mention about his certain situation as well. ...
Yeah but muscleman straight away said casual sex and nothing more without getting with them for obvious reasons and the first thing you bring up is relationships with them. C'mon, it's pretty funny, isn't it? :p
 
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