"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Shut the f*ck up!

BadsnakeUK

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This is one of the biggest things to master when dealing with women. We read a ton of stuff about how to DHV, bust on her, disqualify her blah blah blah, and quite often we just talk ourselves into oblivion.

As an AFC, we do this either out of nervousness or the need to impress, or to give ourselves completely to our goddess so she can see all the wonderful things about us. As a wannabe DJ we do it to impress her with our DJness, or because we want to try out all of these cool techniques that are guaranteed to get us laid in 7 hours or whatever.

Make your words count. You only need to convey enough. Any more than that is too much. Any more than enough and your value goes into freefall. You look like you are showing off, desperate to keep her or explaning yourself, all of which are low value, low status behaviours.

Remember that women love mystery. However much you try to build yourself up in her eyes, it will never match up to her fantasies of the mysterious stranger. After all, however good you are, you still live life as an ardinary person every day. Leave it to her imagination and you are her knight in shining armour. Let her have the fantasy and fall in love with it. Let her paint her own pictures. The devil is in the detail!

Of course, in the first few minutes of meeting a woman you will neeed to lead the convo and push things on, but when you have her hooked, there's no need to talk her into the ground. Use broad brush strokes and let her fill in the rest.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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where do you draw the line though?

because obviously you cant say nothg or very little in front of a girl...
 

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As I said, at first you'll need to take the lead, but after this, when she starts showing some interest, asking about you, there's no need to spill your guts. That's what AFCs do all the time - just splurge all over her with their whole life story. Someone wrote on here a while back that she wants to unpeel you a layer at a time, like an onion, not just unravel you all at once. Give things to her slowly, a bit at a time. If she wants to know more, she'll ask. They're very nosey creatures and it will drive her mad trying to find out what you're about.
 

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Great post.

On a semi-related note, there's a lot of talk on here about what to add to your "game" on this board, but not a lot of talk about things you may need to drop. Sometimes it's not a matter of adding, but rather subtracting.

Cutting the fat so to speak.

You may be surprised.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Good call... I've already experienced the power of mystery a couple of times, I shall try to amplify it even more.

Also about cutting the fat... this man speaks the truth!
 

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Bump
 

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Be careful not to go into "passive mode" by cutting down how much you talk. In fact, you still have to have more energy than she does. The moment she becomes bored, you're **** out of luck.

If you are on a planned date, you still gotta lead the conversation. Just don't reveal much about yourself, and keep the comments ****y/funny, and your golden.

Same goes with picking up girls, or talking on the phone. Make your words count, let your actions do the rest.

If you're stuck in a situation where you are forced to have conversation (ie. like driving in a car, moving from one place to another) dont leave any silence between you guys, again the key is to not talk about yourself. Observe your surroundings, try rapping with the song on the radio, tell her she has a spider in her hair, something! Keep it light and fun, always. Save the serious stuff for your guy friends, or your sister. Goodluck dudes!
 

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Once again you're 100% right Snake. Keep delivering please.
 

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Shut up and Listen. Make sure you give her just enough to keep on going, like putting gas in a car. Too much and you'll be f***** broke. Nice post BSnake
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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