"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Showing Interest

Gammergq

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Okay my number one principle with girls after trail and error is not to show too much interest especially in start but how do you show the right amount of interest and keep a aloofness and control of the situation?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Nexus Polaris

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I don't know how much is just enough, but don't do what I do. I've been overcompensating and running them off by being too aloof.

There's a line somewhere in the middle that's personable. It's between too interested and not interested enough. I still haven't found it.
 

Interceptor

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Show interest when she shows you something interesting.
 

ready123

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yea, I agree with Interceptor. showing interest is fine if it's genuine. if she says something you think is fvckin cool - like she's a fan of the same NBA team as you, or you like the same kind of movies, you don't lose value for being interested

showing interest for no reason is what you should avoid - that just telegraphs desparation

if you're actign aloof, you're purposely making yourself boring, not cooler. don't do that sh!t
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Lord Shinra

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I usually take her IOI's and match them. I keep matching and then when she isn't expecting it I'll up the ante a good amount.

It will really make it look like you have a pair and if she dont like you, you know ahead of time to move on.
 

mongolboy

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Show interest if she shows you interesting or the other way around also 2, if there is no interest oh well NEXT!!! there are 3 billion girls in the world and 28,526 days 2 live so GO GET IT!
 
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