Last Man Standing
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Whoever pursues pays!
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I don't get that mentality, never have. So what, you invited a chick to hang out with you. Nobody said she had to accept your invitation. You didn't force her, right? So why should you fit the bill?Last Man Standing said:Whoever pursues pays!
Probably not much, I agree any date's outcome is to a large degree dependent on her IL, her having it, and you maintaining / raising it. My context was that of a date rewarding a chick thats shown you genuine interest and respect.Francisco d'Anconia said:What can a guy accomplish on an "expensive date" which he couldn't accomplish on a regular date?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
So dinner and a movie has more value than her sharing your company??? Spending time with you isn't worthwhile unless there is something else attached to it?mzilla2 said:...My context was that of a date rewarding a chick thats shown you genuine interest and respect....
I beg to differ on both counts. Don't treat it like an interview and you have a much better chance of having a bit of kino.Colossus said:...Coffee is not good if you want to get some physical contact going, and it often does have the interview feel to it...
See the things you can learn when you don follow arbitrary societal rules.Mr. Me said:Another advantage to having a "coffee" date, is that, if she's out to use guys for free meals, she'll typically balk and refuse the date.
"I only go to dinner dates", she says.
"Why?" I ask.
"Because that way, if it doesn't work between us, we still can enjoy a nice meal, so the evening's not a total loss." She'll say. But why would I want to have a "nice meal" with someone it's not working out with? And you'll get stuck with the bill most probably. I've even heard of women who order lots of food and then take it home in a doggie bag, your treat.
It's better to determine in short order over a cup of coffee if this person is someone you wouldn't mind spending some time over a meal with first - and more importantly, if she's really into you or not. It just saves you from getting into those bad sitches.
Likewise, watch out for those that do accept coffee dates but then pull the same crap, that it's about them getting a treat rather than the focus being on meeting you:
"Okay. But not at Starbucks", she'll say. "There's a place uptown that has nicer ambience and exquisite coffees. Let's meet there!"
This helps screen out the Users up front. But when I do invite a woman out to a meal, usually after a few dates, I pay. If she offers, that's good, but I refuse that offer and I pay. It doesn't go unnoticed, because most guys will take her money at that point, and I don't want her to lump me in as being like all the others.
Before anyone jumps all over me, let me add that I'm no fool. I do look to see that within a few dates that she, in turn, is inviting me out, her treat, or offering to cook me dinner. If she doesn't, then I drop her. Plus, I don't do a lot of dinner dates. I prefer activity dates.
I also watch to see if, those times when I'm treating and she offers and I refuse, if she then keeps on insisting. That's usually a sign that she doesn't want to feel any obligation at all, which means that you only serve as a means for getting her out of her boring life for a little while, but she's not really interested.
Don't read too much into it.Francisco d'Anconia said:So dinner and a movie has more value than her sharing your company??? Spending time with you isn't worthwhile unless there is something else attached to it?![]()
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.