"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Should I openly say I'm Atheist ?
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
I'm secure in my penis size.. should I go out side and walk around butt ass naked because of it, just getting an air dry? No, because it will cause uncalled for problems that can be prevented by wearing draws.
I never did like dating sites...if I were to do one It would be as blank as I could possibly leave everything.. there is no mystery and waht's thef un in that?
That's taking it to extremes.backbreaker said:
That's like saying if I state I'm an atheist, I also insult God in massive block letters on the top of the page.
I'm saying not to worry so much about what other people will think, he said himself that he doesn't want to scare people away. Don't worry about that.
I seriously doubt people will find it any less attractive. My mate stated he was atheist and managed to pull a catholic chick over MySpace.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
Trust me, coming from a fellow athiest..it's not worth it. it has nothing to do with security, it has everything to do with getting random emails from bible thumpers, having at least 1-2 long drawn out pointless converastions wtih people who are trying to "save me from the devil", my EX tried to read me a passage from the bible and I, the atheist, had to show her where it was at.
Then the women that don't freak out.. it will come up in a converation within a week's time, if for no other reason she has nothing to talk about and it seems "interesting enough", and will pry utnil she figures out what "changed you" then try to pry and see are you a crazy *******.
again, I"m not crazy, I just dont' beleive in god. however, I don't go out of my way to show I'm an athiest.. I'm not looking for converts or anything... just trying to keep the peace.
I used to be the guy.. I'm atheist and i'm proud guy... Every freakin other day.. someone somewhere. my best friend plays the piano for his church.. we staye dup to 7am one night talking about the bible... i had to cancel a date.
relgious people have no idea how much they get on atheists nerves.. if it werent' for this crap I wouldn't have a problem. I can even deal with you thinking I'm gone in the head.
what i can't deal with is the inconvenience of my life trying to defend myself... and usually I let it slide.. until they keep provoking you... because all they are trying to do is prove to themselves.. it has little to do with me
selfmademob
Banned
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
You do have a point there. I feel sorry for the gay atheist out there who need to prove that their lifestyle isn't a choice...selfmademob said:
Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
Amen. (ahem!)
Speaking of penis size, Backbreaker, guys on dating sites are notorious for sending unsolicited c0ck pictures. So you're not even exaggerating.
Much like bringing up c0ck size, mentioning your religion doesn't really belong on a facebook profile for everybody to see, unless you're a real activist.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Charm&Style
Master Don Juan
azanon said:
its funny how true that is. A couple of months back the big thing in the news was this cuban ex drugg lord who claimed he was Jesus and he had tons of followers and tons of hot beeotches :drool:
Putting your religious views on facebook/myspace is fine as well. I know a very popular person who is openly atheist. Just don't bring it up in conversation with people. It's generally a bad idea.
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/godfuse.html illustrates this. You come off as just as arrogant to the religious fanatics as they come off to you. I would come up just as arrogant if I went around preaching my religious views (I'm a hard agnostic).
Charm&Style
Master Don Juan
Serialized3 said:
bro you're lame, how is that going to help him network or attract girls. Its ok to say you're atheist and be intellectual about it but its another to flame on God (which majority of the world "believes" in)
:box:
Serialized3
Master Don Juan
You're thick in the head if you don't see both the humor in that statement, and that I was joking. Do you actually take facebook or whatever seriously? :kick:Charm&Style said:
Plus, who cares what the world believes in? Most people are idiots.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Charm&Style
Master Don Juan
Not really, im pretty open minded, i just fail to see where the humor was (yes i get that he's an atheist and thus has no belief in god so its a so-to-say oxymoron) but still i fail to see the humorSerialized3 said:
it depends what ppl use their fcbk for, one reason that i started an account is because of the networking it has and thus i must take it serious, i write vital information and have vital business connections. ( i have an import business)
As for your last statement :moon: girls in my high school class had that written in their aim profiles...couldn't you come up with anything more original
As for you my atheist friend in question, just put it down as your view, from my experience most ppl are monotheist ("because they were born that way") yet consider themselves agnostic. The only problem with religious views is that when discussed battles, and arguments occur. You should stand up for what you believe in at the time of need but im sure you know, if you're out on a date try not to speak of such stuff unless she is totally interested. Political and religious talks always turns ppl completely off and brings at times hatred and rage towards each other (IMO).
"May the forces of luck be with you"
(lol my atheist friend always told me this)
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Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I'm personally suspicious of people who define themselves by either religious or political ideologies. It's not about their belief whatever it may be, it's just the fact that they have to proclaim it in a self defining manner. I'm guessing it's because it's more difficult to engage people who are driven mostly by the beliefs of a group. Images of a horde, collective or cult comes to mind.theunflushables said:
Just my two cents.
Paintballguy
Master Don Juan
the term sheep comes to mind here. heheFrancisco d'Anconia said:
I do not like people who follow someone elses beliefs/ideologies. I personally like to have my own.
Themanthatcan
Senior Don Juan
Is anyone here actually a Christian?
By the way, I wouldn't make that public. Your overdoing it.
It's like a rich man telling you he's rich.
You don't have to tell anyone- If they hang out with you long enough, they'll just know.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.