"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Should I Go For It?

Ice882

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Hey guys, so I'm a junior in high school, and school just started today. However, I was an orientation leader during last week and I met this freshman girl who I toured around the school answering her questions and being C+F. She was pretty cute, and I'm pretty sure I could get with her if I actually went for it. I saw her in the hall today and she gave me the sexy eyes and a sly smile Thing is, she's a freshman....like 14 or 15, and I just turned 17 yesterday.

Should I go for this freshman girl? She's like an 8. Responses please!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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If its legal in your state, yes.

Regret is worse then rejection. Live by that 1000%. (Registering as a sex offender cause her parents didn't like you is worse then regret) 10,000%.

Where do you live?
 

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scrouds said:
If its legal in your state, yes.

MA? I don't know. I feel like its not-- I think consent is 16. But its different if you're the same age or one year apart....which we're not but anyway I don't think it'd be an issue unless it was actually rape or reported by her parents or something. I don't believe it would be an issue as long as she consented and her parents didn't find out....

anyone else have an opinion on whether or not I should go for this?
 

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Would it matter if I said yes or no? Do you want other people telling you what to think or do? If you like her and want to go for it.. Then go for it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Ice882

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I.A.F.Y.B. said:
Would it matter if I said yes or no? Do you want other people telling you what to think or do? If you like her and want to go for it.. Then go for it.
By that logic everyone would ignore all advice forever. You can't do that if you want to succeed. There is unlimited knowledge in this world, and one person can only learn so much of it "by doing". There are things that must be taught.

I'm asking if anyone sees any potential consequences, i.e.

- my losing standing at the school for getting with a freshman

- some sort of sexual assault law (a stupid one, I wouldn't ever rape)

etc.
 

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Go for what you want

When I was in high school - all of us senior guys were hanging out with freshman girls.

They were damn cute

I understand that you are *concerned* about how others view this - but again, if you are comfortable and cool with it yourself, then you can *pull it off*
 

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From my experience, if your a junior and your trying to get with a freshman, thats perfectly fine, just as long as shes good looking (you say shes an 8). Dont worry about what other people think such as "losing your standard". If anyone gives you crap or says something, just say back "Dude I dont care I think shes mad hot".

And dont get hung up on the sexual assault thing.

And take scrouds advice. Regret is much worse than rejection. Your in highschool man, just fvcking go for it!
 

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Alright I'm going for it. Let's get pumped BOYS.

Regret is so much worse than rejection, so true.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ice882 said:
By that logic everyone would ignore all advice forever. You can't do that if you want to succeed. There is unlimited knowledge in this world, and one person can only learn so much of it "by doing". There are things that must be taught.
But, in the end YOU choose the final decision. Thats the beauty of your own freedom. You can do what you want. Advice is just re-assurance to what you are already thinking... (most the time.)
 
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