"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Should I do this?

Desdinova

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So, I've got a child-free Friday night coming up in a couple of weeks. This is a rarity, and I'm hoping to make the best of it. Me and my gf have never gone out and got drunk together, and this is what we're wanting to do. She'll finally be spending the night :)

The place we plan on going to is about a 10 minute walk from my house. We can easily go there and stumble home, no driving required. Sounds great, right?

The problem is last gf hangs out there regularly on Friday night. There is no doubt that she's going to be there. She was pretty crazy about me and I dumped her two months ago for my current gf. I talked with one of me and my ex's mutual friends last night and apparently she's still really pi5sed at me.

On the plus side, when I've been in situations like this before, the dirty looks and evil stares from the unhappy party give the new girl an energetic shot of IL. Women love to be envied, and the fact that someone hates her for winning The Prize makes her feel absolutely grand.

I don't think anything truly awful can happen from this situation, but I figured I'd get some input from you guys.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Desdinova said:
She was pretty crazy about me and I dumped her two months ago for my current gf.
Do you mean girlfriend girlfriend or "one of my plates"? I was wondering if I missed one of your posts.

You know the girl and the venue better than we do. As long as you don't think anything truly awful can happen, I don't see a reason to avoid the place. If she was that crazy about you, she might try to put on a show for you, stir up some sh!t, or maybe even leave. I agree it could be interesting for the new girl/create some drama.

For me, I'd probably be more comfortable someplace else where she isn't at. But I guess the 10 minute walk makes it the best place.
 

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zekko said:
Do you mean girlfriend girlfriend or "one of my plates"? I was wondering if I missed one of your posts.
I was with her for nine months. She wanted to move in, eventually get married, and wanted to have kids. Although I made it clear from the get-go that I didn't want any of that, she still persisted. She's 34 with an agenda and is a medicated bi-polar. She was pretty pissed off when I ended it.
 

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Desdinova said:
I was with her for nine months. She wanted to move in, eventually get married, and wanted to have kids. Although I made it clear from the get-go that I didn't want any of that, she still persisted. She's 34 with an agenda and is a medicated bi-polar. She was pretty pissed off when I ended it.
I do remember that. I was actually asking more about your new girlfriend. Is this the 22 year old?

If this forum is correct, she should be able to find some AFC to settle down with. Though that's probably little comfort for losing the real catch.

You sound like you've got about the same attitude as George Clooney. After his first (and only) marriage failed, he was done with it and said he wouldn't do it again.
 

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Yes, you should.

You're a man and you live YOUR life. Who cares that she is there (if she is there) at the same time.

If she confronts you, deal with it how you would and move to another place in the bar.

Your only worry is that it might get uncomfortable for your girlfriend, but at the same time, if she's getting drunk, you could see her whoop some a$$.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Do you wanna have a stress free fun night out without injecting any unneeded and unpredictable drama?

Take a taxi to another place.
 

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Pair A Dice said:
Yes, you should.

You're a man and you live YOUR life. Who cares that she is there (if she is there) at the same time.
taiyuu_otoko said:
Do you wanna have a stress free fun night out without injecting any unneeded and unpredictable drama?

Take a taxi to another place.
These are two conflicting, and yet perfectly correct pieces of advice, IMO.

Do you want to go with the alpha "I go wherever I want, change my plans for no woman" or just want a peaceful night? Pick one.
 

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Whats the big thrill in going out getting drunk together?
 

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zekko said:
Do you want to go with the alpha "I go wherever I want, change my plans for no woman" or just want a peaceful night? Pick one.
The way I see it, the night isn't about my ex (although she may want to make it that way). It's about me going out and having fun at a place I like to go.

Whats the big thrill in going out getting drunk together?
I enjoy it once in a while and so does she. I'm usually the one who has to stay sober because I'm driving. On that night, I won't have to.

Not only that, getting your woman drunk can tell you a LOT about her personality. If she turns into a drunken wh0re, she gets dumped.
 
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