"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Should I Be Concerned?

NewAndImproved

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Met a girl on NYE. A friend of a girl my friend was after. We had each other's backs that night. On the ride over from the pre-party to the actual one, I started talking to her, my usual C&F about seeming to be from another school. At the party, I stayed in her vicinity, while talking to some friends. She asked me to take a pic w/her friends and I refused, saying: "And what do I get return?" I then held my glance w/o flinching and she kissed me. I joked around and called it weak. When the clock struck twelve, I got another. I was hilarious throughout the night, plenty of negs, some deep convos too. I isolated in another room, sat on my lap cuddling and then we made out. I then walked her back to her friends, got a #. I told her I'd call her in 2 weeks (said the date) when she said she'd be back in town. She gave me a final kiss which I took as a good sign and then I bounced.

The next day I added her on facebook. I usually wait for the girl but her page was private and I wanted to see if she looked as good as she did w/beer goggles. She definitely did. I also had a status message up saying that "the new year started off right" or something like that. Since I'm a full-time student, I'm not used to having to keep in contact w/someone and maintain interest during times where dates aren't possible but I figured I should at least text her to keep the IL up. I did on Sunday night, several days removed, a C&F message referencing something I negged her about. No response.

Did I wait too long to contact her? Was I too eager? Was it my facebook status? Or what?

Right now I'm just gonna proceed as planned and call her next week of course as we agreed but of course I'm a little thrown off right now.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If you say 2 weeks you should mean 2 weeks. It could be for all the reasons you suggested or there could be other reasons out of your control. She might be seeing if you contact her again too.


It's not even worth thinking about. Go concentrate on spinning other plates and then get back to her when it's time.


it sounds like you done well on the night.
 

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Yeah, thanks man. Everything really came together NYE. I was applying everything that I've learned, but it came effortlessly. I'll try not to worry about it.
 
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It sounds like she was drunk and just wanted some NYE fun, you happened to be the man that provided it. I'd text her or attempt to phone her one more time and if she doesn't pick up the phone, chalk it up a loss and move on.
 

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UPDATE:

Well, she finally broke the silence. Sent me a facebook message saying her phone was dead and that she'd have a new one in a few days. Then she asked what was up. It's difficult to tell from the message if she actually got the text I sent on Sunday.

So now obviously I need to get her number again. I was thinking something like "ah...well when the phone's all set up you should ask me for MY digits this time." Good? Bad?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Why not hit her with a simple "Do you fancy going for coffee sometime?". Be direct and prompt, if she says no, then she isn't interested, if she says yes, take that as an interest and go from there.
 

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NewAndImproved said:
"ah...well when the phone's all set up you should ask me for MY digits this time."
that is giving her control, putting the ball into her court. when it's time, tell her to give you her new number. in the meantime, just keep the c&f and attraction going in the facebook messages. make it short and sweet every time, until you talk on the phone or meet up with her again. remember the more you chase, the less interested she'll be in you.
 

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Grrr....

Well, the same day I wrote my last post I sent her a C&F message via facebook, hoping to get some banter going before she came back to town. After a few exchanges, I'd sort out the phone problem...if there was one. Instead, I never got a response. I know she was on a few times because she responded to some other peoples' messages, added photos etc... When the day I said I'd call came around, I did and I got her voicemail. I didn't leave one. Voicemail boxes are often remote so that didn't bother me as much as the fact that she initiated something and then peaced out. Whatever. I figured I'd wait to see what she did when we all got back to school.

Then just today she writes me on facebook: "NewAndImproved!!!" She then asked what was up. At this point, my plan is to not respond and wait until the weekend where according to facebook she's going to the same party I'll be at. I'm doing it less out of wanting to play games as to just actually get communicating w/her. IMO, the first thing out of her mouth (so to speak) when she wrote me should've been an explanation. Sound good?
 
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