Hey all, could use some perspective on this situation. Known a girl for four years, she's a game player for sure. Last night she came home with me from her birthday celebration and started acting cold, wouldn't kiss or make out with me. So I turned away from her, then later in the night she started getting frisky and so we had sex. Except, the whole time she still wouldn't kiss or make out! She kept turning her head away even as we were having sex whenever I would try. I didn't address the issue directly, because she seemed unwilling to talk about it, but haven't encountered this before. Thoughts?
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
She will have sex but won't kiss me...
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
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mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Your a FWB with her and she doesn't want to feel connected. Whats funny though is many females are mimicking behaviors guys used to do, so some aren't kissing and things like this to match what guys had been doing to females. So no kissing and affection and sex for "fun".
Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
Dear Nice guy,
With Asian Birds this is not unusual at all.
With Asian Birds this is not unusual at all.
Thanks for the replies guys. I had not kissed her before. We had flirted before but this was new territory. Yeah I think I'm gonna go strongly sexual in my texts to try to meetup with her again rather than go the relationship/comfort route in my texts. I tried sending her some cute pictures of my buddy's kids and she waited a day to reply. My next message was that I wanted to finish what we began and that she left her panties at my place. I'll see if that garners a quicker reply. She's showing me she's not looking for a relationship with me so we'll see if she takes the FWB frame.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
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Banned
Is she allergic to kiss you, I've seen the news with the sexy chineese girl to her boyfriend saliva allergies.May your girlfirend is allergic to something.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
how often do you floss?
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
kissing is more intimate than sex.
Yep. It's a woman thing.
Yep. It's a woman thing.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Trust me guys I brushed right before and had gum... Definitely not bad breath. Yeah I think you guys hit on the head with her thinking kissing is more intimate than sex. I don't know on what planet this is the case, but not gonna argue with chick logic lol.
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my ex bytch was the same way. We used to kiss a lot.
But after she ****ed around on me some, she wouldn't do it before sex.
I think it's a mental obstacle. If they've been around, kisses make them feel guilty. I believe many of women's hang-ups are totally mental karma/pain.
But after she ****ed around on me some, she wouldn't do it before sex.
I think it's a mental obstacle. If they've been around, kisses make them feel guilty. I believe many of women's hang-ups are totally mental karma/pain.