Hey all, could use some perspective on this situation. Known a girl for four years, she's a game player for sure. Last night she came home with me from her birthday celebration and started acting cold, wouldn't kiss or make out with me. So I turned away from her, then later in the night she started getting frisky and so we had sex. Except, the whole time she still wouldn't kiss or make out! She kept turning her head away even as we were having sex whenever I would try. I didn't address the issue directly, because she seemed unwilling to talk about it, but haven't encountered this before. Thoughts?
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
She will have sex but won't kiss me...
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
Your a FWB with her and she doesn't want to feel connected. Whats funny though is many females are mimicking behaviors guys used to do, so some aren't kissing and things like this to match what guys had been doing to females. So no kissing and affection and sex for "fun".
Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
Dear Nice guy,
With Asian Birds this is not unusual at all.
With Asian Birds this is not unusual at all.
Thanks for the replies guys. I had not kissed her before. We had flirted before but this was new territory. Yeah I think I'm gonna go strongly sexual in my texts to try to meetup with her again rather than go the relationship/comfort route in my texts. I tried sending her some cute pictures of my buddy's kids and she waited a day to reply. My next message was that I wanted to finish what we began and that she left her panties at my place. I'll see if that garners a quicker reply. She's showing me she's not looking for a relationship with me so we'll see if she takes the FWB frame.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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Banned
Is she allergic to kiss you, I've seen the news with the sexy chineese girl to her boyfriend saliva allergies.May your girlfirend is allergic to something.
wifehunter
Master Don Juan
how often do you floss?
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
kissing is more intimate than sex.
Yep. It's a woman thing.
Yep. It's a woman thing.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Trust me guys I brushed right before and had gum... Definitely not bad breath. Yeah I think you guys hit on the head with her thinking kissing is more intimate than sex. I don't know on what planet this is the case, but not gonna argue with chick logic lol.
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my ex bytch was the same way. We used to kiss a lot.
But after she ****ed around on me some, she wouldn't do it before sex.
I think it's a mental obstacle. If they've been around, kisses make them feel guilty. I believe many of women's hang-ups are totally mental karma/pain.
But after she ****ed around on me some, she wouldn't do it before sex.
I think it's a mental obstacle. If they've been around, kisses make them feel guilty. I believe many of women's hang-ups are totally mental karma/pain.