"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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She wants a second public date before coming to my place.

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It's pretty simple really. You let her set the frame in the hopes that she would reward you with sex, and this turned her off.

All of the fake rules she set were sh!t tests that you failed. If you let a girl plan the dates, then this is what typically happens. Women hate leading.

You essentially tried to implement a covert contract with her i.e. "If I follow her rules, and cook for her then she will reward me with sex" - Women are not stupid. This kind of transactional behavior is beta and instinctively turns a woman off.

I only know this because I've experienced it myself.

It's far better if you set the rules, and if she doesn't comply, then you walk away.
Yeah man. You really called it and you're so right. I now see the mistakes I made on this date. Definitely some huge beta behavior in there on my part - but a great learning experience for next time!
 

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Ignore her until she begs, and find new girls.

If you respond then she'll just start tooling you again. She needs to start offering something.
I have read receipts on. This will be even better hahah
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Do you know why girls flake like crazy and treat men like disposable trash?

Because, unlike us, they naturally have abundant mindset thanks to having nearly unlimited options - on a daily basis.
 

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It's because they are hypergamos. They want a man who is above her, so if you chase her and follow her rules it communicates that she is the prize. She wants you to be the prize.
Hypergamy is one thing. It's thirsty betas giving away free attention to women I'm talking about.

Why wouldn't women treat us like trash if at any given minutes, they could have 10 guys waiting to be their puppies.
 

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reply to her "unfortunately we dont share common values, and some things concerned me on our last meet"

then ghost her forever...

leave all her messages on read after this

you cannot reply to anything after youve sent this message.

shes probably had Chad leave her face looking like a decorators radio then kick her out, and she thinks she knows where she can get that ego rubbed.

This is your moment to hand in the Beta Nice guy card, And collect your pimp one.
 

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reply to her "unfortunately we dont share common values, and some things concerned me on our last meet"

then ghost her forever...

leave all her messages on read after this

you cannot reply to anything after youve sent this message.

shes probably had Chad leave her face looking like a decorators radio then kick her out, and she thinks she knows where she can get that ego rubbed.

This is your moment to hand in the Beta Nice guy card, And collect your pimp one.
Agreed!

This chick should have started her text with something along the line of "I am sorry for my behaviour, can we meet at ABC at XYZ time so we can talk about this?"

Then, maybe, just maybe, OP can give her the chance to meet and talk and perhaps svck his d!ck as compensation.

But anything less than that is a big NO and most likely breadcrumbs from an entilted b!tch that she is, to check if OP would immediately wag his tail in excitement with mouth wide open and tongue out like a thirsty puppy, or not.

So, if it was me, I would 100% ignore and leave it on read receipt WITHOUT saying ANYTHING.

Silence, not words, make their hamster spin like crazy, and respect you more. Because your silence subconsciously communicates to them that you have a spine and that you did not approve of their sh!tty behaviour - which makes you different from 90% of beta chumps out there.
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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That's why I appreciate this forum. Youtube guys would have you believe that a high value man is only a man that is able to live by the rule of 6's. But guys who are putting in the work and are experienced know otherwise. I gotta say I was getting depressed at one point thinking I wouldn't be able to get to high value man status to be able to effectively spin hot plates. As I am under 6ft(by a half a foot), and will not be making six figures any time soon. It was at the point of me thinking "screw it I would rather have a harem of young fat chicks than be the good enough resources guy for some post wall former hb8-9 slvt."
The rule of 6's isn't all it's cracked up to be. I have all the 6's but it wasn't until my game was decent that it started working. If you want just sex they are less picky. I got laid when I lived in a van. But some filtered me out because they wanted some more safety.
 

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Silence does work best on a chick you've already banged tho, because a girl you haven't banged just doesn't have the attachment yet for it to matter much to her.
Doesn't mean I have to open my mouth though.

Banged or not. Once you have disrespected me enough to give me sh!tty behaviour, you're OUT. And I don't give a damn if my silence matter to you or not. It's as simple as that.
 

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Absolutely. The Silence should be for your own dignity, not to get a reaction from the woman.

All I'm saying is that Silence is more likely to get a reaction from a woman if you've already banged her.
Great advice man. I am on the fence between saying nothing or saying something like @derby1 suggested. Both of you guys make great points. I know silence kills (more if you banged though), but at the same time I want to put her in check.
 

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Great advice man. I am on the fence between saying nothing or saying something like @derby1 suggested. Both of you guys make great points. I know silence kills (more if you banged though), but at the same time I want to put her in check.
I am dying to hear what she has to say......

while i can see the point in ghosting her, i´d rather try and play the beach as she tried playing you.

As long as you dont trust her(voice record next meeting with your phone) and dont give **** about the outcome, use her for practice and see if you can turn her around to become your slvt.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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"I'm busy right now. Whats up?"

Thats the most aloof response you could give her. You give her a chance to see what she has to say without giving a shyte.
Make her wait at least 24 hours first.
 

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Her: “Can we talk?“

You: “about?”

If she ignores, either cut completely or reply, “That’s what I thought” ;)

This is one time where an emoji is useful. I almost never use them, but in this case it clearly conveys that you’re on to her little game and that it doesn’t matter to you.

This is probably what I would do so I could teach her about consequences from a detached and amused position.
 

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Because, unlike us, they naturally have abundant mindset thanks to having nearly unlimited options - on a daily basis.
Yes! IF you watch any R&B tune from the 90s, or listen to any SOS Band tune from the 80s, it is the woman who acts like the stalker in scarcity mindset.

However a womans modern Abundance mindset is fake its not real, A social media facade. that slaps her in the face much later on
 

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good luck with what you do, but remember she is a Jedi at this, and will Re-beta you up very fast.

I can assure you she is just checking she can go 3 weeks without speaking to you, and you still want her.

I find it amazing that we as Men allow this behaviour,if this was a business deal she would have been ghosted the moment she played up on the 2nd meet
 

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If she's smart then that's quite transparent. Girls constantly tell me they are busy and I know it's bullsh!t. If you're truly busy, then why respond?

I think she needs to offer a bit more than "We need to talk". That's an entitled princess message.
Agreed. The "can we talk" is about 2 things:

1. Will he respond.....meaning is he still on the hook
2. To see if he will not only respond, but jump at the chance.

Its a gauge of his interest. Most certainly a test. Had she had a sincere apology, he would have gotten it already.

Just another mediocre yet entitled little bytch that deserves no more than crickets.......
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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