"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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She LJBFs me, I cut her off. Good idea?

The Forms

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So i've known this girl for a little over a year now. In that time we've hooked up plenty of times. We used to live a couple hours away from each other, so we didn't see each other much. Now we live in the same town. She got a boyfriend (but he's about to get dumped). We aren't going to date because I'm moving in 2 months, so it'd be pointless.

Everytime we hang out I end up trying to hook up with her because she turns me on, so I told her I can't hang out with her anymore if I'm not getting any.

She tries to LJBF me. She says I can call her when I'm ready to be just friends with her.

Needless to say, I haven't called her.

What are ya'lls thoughts on this one? I figure I'll just freeze her out. If she wants to be friends there's going to be benefits, as far as I'm concerned. Or we can just quit being friends. Because its frustrating not getting any from her when I'm used to it. I figure if the relationship isn't going to be what I want it to be, who's she to guilt me into making it the relationship SHE wants?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Aaron B

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Why are you focused on her?

She either comes along with your program, or she doesn't. Obviously, she has chosen not to follow your plans.

You should have several prospects and when your first choice flakes you go to the next one on the list.

Figure out what you want and go get it.
 

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Stop talking to her like you said you were.... Since you been fvcking her before, she might miss not having it and call you back.
 

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Yep you are doing the right thing - just move on and she'll be in touch if she wants more down the road.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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00Kevin

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The Forms said:
So i've known this girl for a little over a year now. In that time we've hooked up plenty of times. We used to live a couple hours away from each other, so we didn't see each other much. Now we live in the same town. She got a boyfriend (but he's about to get dumped). We aren't going to date because I'm moving in 2 months, so it'd be pointless.

Everytime we hang out I end up trying to hook up with her because she turns me on, so I told her I can't hang out with her anymore if I'm not getting any.

She tries to LJBF me. She says I can call her when I'm ready to be just friends with her.

Needless to say, I haven't called her.

What are ya'lls thoughts on this one? I figure I'll just freeze her out. If she wants to be friends there's going to be benefits, as far as I'm concerned. Or we can just quit being friends. Because its frustrating not getting any from her when I'm used to it. I figure if the relationship isn't going to be what I want it to be, who's she to guilt me into making it the relationship SHE wants?
Just date other girls and tell her about them if she calls. If you go out with her again make a move on her. Hit on her. Etc..

Otherwise next her.
 

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1. you have no respect for yourself
2. im not going to tell you #2. figure it out, thats what a man does
 

The Forms

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PleasureKing said:
1. you have no respect for yourself
2. im not going to tell you #2. figure it out, thats what a man does
Hahaha. I love how many *******s there are on this site. I'm amazed at the number of guys who post when they have nothing to say.

So I have no respect for myself, and I'm not a man? Fine. Your penis is HUGE. We're all immensely impressed by how cool you are. It takes a real man to mischaracterize people you know nothing about on the internet.
 

Kev07

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yeah, but seriously, if a girl LJBFs you, the ONLY smart choice you can do is to cut her off.

end of thread.

there needs to be a sticky that explains this, because even though it IS possible to turn LJBF into something more, it takes way too much work, and you won't feel the achievement at the end, thinking "wow i did all that for this...?"

<--- personal experience

also once you cut off the girl, you'll realize how pointless it was the whole time.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What does the question "good idea?" mean? Do whatever you feel is respectful to yourself.

The Forms said:
So i've known this girl for a little over a year now. In that time we've hooked up plenty of times. We used to live a couple hours away from each other, so we didn't see each other much. Now we live in the same town. She got a boyfriend (but he's about to get dumped). We aren't going to date because I'm moving in 2 months, so it'd be pointless.

Everytime we hang out I end up trying to hook up with her because she turns me on, so I told her I can't hang out with her anymore if I'm not getting any.

She tries to LJBF me. She says I can call her when I'm ready to be just friends with her.

Needless to say, I haven't called her.

What are ya'lls thoughts on this one? I figure I'll just freeze her out. If she wants to be friends there's going to be benefits, as far as I'm concerned. Or we can just quit being friends. Because its frustrating not getting any from her when I'm used to it. I figure if the relationship isn't going to be what I want it to be, who's she to guilt me into making it the relationship SHE wants?
 
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