"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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She has a boyfriend, so what.

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I've been talking to this girl for about 3 months and she has a boyfriend but she slept with me anyways the first night we met. So I've seen her a three or four times sense then; getting drinks and back to my place once. Anyways I keep initiating contact rarely does she however I always get a quick response and she seems very interested.
Recently I invited her to and activity and she said she wanted to go but had to work. Pretty clear she was upset she couldn't come because of work. I also figure that she is having issues with the boyfriend at this point. I cut the conversation saying I would take her when she was free but I failed to set the date at that time. She reallllllly wanted to go.
So a day or two later I thought I should probably set the date...and she will not respond suddenly.
I think I should have been more aggressive when I found out she was fighting with her boyfriend and invited her out then because she couldn't come to the date. Or could she just be testing me to see if I will react? I like the girl but I'm not sure how to react? Wait a few more days? Or ask her what is wrong? I know her current relationship is a bit rocky. Could just be something going on.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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If she is having relationship issues should I be more available or less?
 

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BB123 said:
If she is having relationship issues should I be more available or less?

less. Any overt conversations about her relationship with her boyfriend, and you may come across as trying to be his replacement. Unless you want to, avoid those kind of conversations, lest you become the rebound boyfriend.

lay back for a while, and look around for other girls in the meantime.

let her come to you. don't be needy.
 

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Well I have tried that before and waited two weeks. She won't initiate contact; only once back when we first met. If I go a week or two without texting her I find out she wants me to contact her through her friends or facebook. I don't know what to make of it.
 

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BB, make sure it's just about fun, and make sure she's not your only option.

If you have serious designs on this chick for a long term relationship, you'll end up with a liar and a skank.

You would merely be another branch is her hypergamous journey to the top.


SH
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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BB123 said:
I've been talking to this girl for about 3 months and she has a boyfriend but she slept with me anyways the first night we met. So I've seen her a three or four times sense then; getting drinks and back to my place once. Anyways I keep initiating contact rarely does she however I always get a quick response and she seems very interested.
Recently I invited her to and activity and she said she wanted to go but had to work. Pretty clear she was upset she couldn't come because of work. I also figure that she is having issues with the boyfriend at this point. I cut the conversation saying I would take her when she was free but I failed to set the date at that time. She reallllllly wanted to go.
So a day or two later I thought I should probably set the date...and she will not respond suddenly.
I think I should have been more aggressive when I found out she was fighting with her boyfriend and invited her out then because she couldn't come to the date. Or could she just be testing me to see if I will react? I like the girl but I'm not sure how to react? Wait a few more days? Or ask her what is wrong? I know her current relationship is a bit rocky. Could just be something going on.

She cheated on her BF with you and you think her relationship is a bit rocky? Could be something going on. Wow

She sabotage her relationship dude, she is not a quality chick. SMH
 

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Dear BB123,
She sounds like she is really worth going that extra yard for!
 
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